GtoRA2: So your saying it is fair that the California school system puts more money into rich kids educations then into poor kids? It not communism!
Of course it is communism. For every person's right there is another person's obligation. Your "they deserve" is liberal-speak for "they have a right" which is really "you, miko, have an obligation".
But I do not live in India or California or Duchess county or Queens. I live in Brooklyn. I have no obligation to pay for anyone's children to the detriment of mine. I may be willing to do that - but it's up to me to determine what way and how much - or would be in a coercion free society.
Why don't you follow your collectivist reasonong to the logical conclusion - children cannot get equal education living in unequal material and ideological conditions. They certainly deserve not only equal living conditions but "approved" upbringing. So let's reduce everyone to equal lifestyle or take children away from parents altgether.
If parents cannot strive to improve conditions of their children, then what's the point of free market economy? Or is it only free market if you can spend money on frivolous stuff like cars and TVs but not on your children? Of course we know how "efficient" non-free-market economies are...
OK, assume you've prevented me to not outspend some other guy - by making all salaries equal or even took my kids to live in a state-run boarding school.
How about using my money and/or intelligence, manners and education and lifestyle afforded by those to attract a wife with superior genes, health- and intelligence-wise in order to have superior children who would out-compete the others - by being smart and not handicapped by bad health?
Obviously even if you raise them in exactly the same conditions as others, the children of parents with my and my wife's IQ (say, 130) cannot possibly come out equally educated as average children - whose IQ is by definition 100! So you would have to assign wifes and breeding privileges as well, right? Otherwise no "equality".
you think kids in a good area deserve better educations??
How do you think those children "deserved" anything from me? What did they do for me and how could they? How did I incur any obligations towards them? I was not there at the moment of their conception, had no say in selecting the parents, planning their budget, lifeslyle (alcohol consumption, diet), career choices, etc. How come I am held responcible for someone conceiving a child they cannot afford?
I am all for charity but any charity comes with strings attached - like no drugs or alcohol or SUVs or any more children untill you can afford all those things. There are such controls with governmental aid.
We are taxed, all of us, so should it not go out in equal amounts per student?
Obviously, some pay more than othes, that's how their commuinities have more to spend per student. That's why people have insentive to work and make money - thus automatically serving other people's needs in a market economy - rather than sitting on welfare like most of population of the Soviet Union did and some americans do.
BTW, even technically, spending "equal amounts per student" is a stupid idea. Dumb students are not educatable beyong certain level and instead of having they spend boring unproductive time in school, they chould be given basic vocational skills corespondng to their level of intelligence.
Gifted students should be given as much advanced tutoring as they can absorb - as those are the ones on whom the future of our country will depend. They will rung government, corportaions and research. Fortunately gifted students in US have eniugh grants and schoolarships available to get into the best schools - private grants given without anby coercion.
Government bureaucracy and teacher's unions would and do spend that money extremely inefficiently. Only natural - since ethey do not earn it.
Free market economy can provide education for everyone according to their abilities and not deprive people from motivation. Eduation pays for itself. Thus it is profitable to loan people money for education since they will pay the loan with interest and still be in the money. Of course only capable would take such loans and then make sure (or their parends would) that the money is not wasted. College loans are common. So would be school loans if state did not grab control of the education.
miko
