Post here, How to get a better rank the easy way.

[wipass]

Remember reading a while back, that one way to increase your rank was to spend the first 2 or 3 days simply attacking cities with large bombs (to increase the % hit), and at the same time waste cities and strats in "attack" mode.

After 3 days, simply get in a fighter and pile up points, result ?? At least a top 100 ranking in the month.

Any other ideas or tips to increase your ranking then please post here.

There is no way that I will finish in the top 15, that's not my incentive. However, some that finish in the top 15 will game the game, just trying to make it a level playing field that's all.

wipass

[Wotan]

its simple

Heres how it works

Each player has a fighter rank, bomber rank, attack rank and vehicle/boat rank. Overall rank is determined by adding all 4 ranks categories together. The guy/squad with the lowest number is the highest ranked player

you

fighter rank 112
bomber 40
attack 12
gv 50

total = 214 (this aint your overall rank)

other guy

fighter rank 130
bomber 10
attack 6
gv 30

total = 176

The guy whos total in all 4 categories is 176 ranked higher then you with 214

All rank categories have subcategories that are added up the same way to give you your rank for that categorie.

There are 10 total sub-categories. For GVs and Attack all 10 matter.


Air Categories
Kills per Death
Kills per Sortie
Kills per Time
Hit percentage
Air points

Ground Categories
Damage per Death
Damage per Sortie
Bombing percentage
Ground points
Field captures
 

In Bombers theres only 5 that matter

Ground Categories
Damage per Death
Damage per Sortie
Bombing percentage
Ground points
Field captures

In Fighters theres only 5 that matter as well

Air Categories
Kills per Death
Kills per Sortie
Kills per Time
Hit percentage
Air points

For GVs and Attack all 10 matter.

Heres the formulas taken right from the help file. These have nothing to do with perk points.

Formulas

Air Categories
Kills per Death = TotalKills / ((Discos * 0.5) + Bails + Captures + Deaths + 1)

Kills per Sortie = TotalKills / TotalTourSorties
Kills per Time = TotalKills / TotalTourSortieTime
Hit percentage = TotalTourBulletsHit / TotalTourBulletsUsed
Air points = PlaneDamageScore + KillScore
Ground Categories
Damage per Death = TotalDamage / ((Discos * 0.5) + Bails + Captures + Deaths + 1)
Damage per Sortie = TotalDamage / TotalTourSorties
Bombing percentage =
(TotalTourBombsHit + TotalTourRocketsHit + TotalTourTorpedosHit) /
(TotalTourBombsUsed + TotalTourRocketsUsed + TotalTourTorpedosUsed)
Ground points =
(DamagePointsScoredOnObjectsTh isSortie * DeathMult) +
TotalTourDamagePointsScoredOn Objects +
(DestroyedPointsScoredOnObject sThisSortie * DeathMult) +
TotalTourDestroyedPointsScore dOnObjects
Field captures = FieldCapturesThisSortie + TotalTourFieldCaptures
 
TotalKills are just air-to-air kills for fighter missions, air-to-air + air-to-ground kills for all other mission types.
 
PlaneDamageScore =
(DamagePointsScoredOnEnemiesTh isSortie * DeathMult) +
TotalTourPlaneDamageScoredOnE nemies
 
KillScore =
((AirKillsThisSortie * 1.0) + (AirAssistsThisSortie * 0.25) +
(GroundKillsThisSortie * 1.0) + (GroundAssistsThisSortie * 0.25) * DeathMult) +
TotalTourKillScore
 
TotalDamage =
(DamagePointsScoredOnObjectsTh isSortie * DeathMult) +
TotalTourDamagePointsScoredOn Objects +
(DestroyedPointsScoredOnObject sThisSortie * DeathMult) +
TotalTourDestroyedPointsScore dOnObjects
 
Death Multipliers
 

 Landed 1
Discoed .25
Bailed .5
Ditched .75
Captured .4
Killed .25
Crashed .25

[wipass]

Wotan,

I hear what you are saying. However, some know more than others in how to increase ranking.

For example **** stated that it is far better from a ranking point of view to ditch or bail those 5 quick vulches you just made than to land them.

There must be other tips or hints too.

wipass

[Wotan]

Ok now you know that how did you better your Score in each category.

Fighters

Fighter rank is made up of these 5 sub-categories

Air Categories
Kills per Death
Kills per Sortie
Kills per Time
Hit percentage
Air points

The two most important categories that effect rank (they all effect rank equally but these 2 are the most competitive, which means even a slight movement up or down can effect where you rank overall in fighters) are Kill/Sortie and Kill/time.

To get a high fighter rank it would seem a kill/sortie of 3 or higher and a Kill/Time of 12 or higher is a must.

Kills/death is the least competitive but anything above 2.5 will is best.

Hit percentage around 15 is good as well.

Air points = PlaneDamageScore + KillScore

KillScore =
((AirKillsThisSortie * 1.0) + (AirAssistsThisSortie * 0.25) +
(GroundKillsThisSortie * 1.0) + (GroundAssistsThisSortie * 0.25) * DeathMult) +
TotalTourKillScore

PlaneDamageScore =
(DamagePointsScoredOnEnemiesTh isSortie * DeathMult) +
TotalTourPlaneDamageScoredOnE nemies

To get a high rank in fighters its not enough to cruise about at 25k with a kd of 12/1 and k/t of 5 and a k/s of 1.4. That aint gonna cut it. You put yourself at risk and fight. But need to fight and live and kill crap fast.

Some would say well this leads to vulchin. But even guuys on the lo end opf the rank system vulch. Most vulch situation are bad for rank because you are competing with a huge number of other folks. So yes you need to furball.

[Wotan]

Wipass I aint done bud

[Wotan]

Bombers

Ground Categories
Damage per Death
Damage per Sortie
Bombing percentage
Ground points
Field captures

Its simple in bombers to get a high score this is what you need to do.

Never get shot down with your bombs on board and never get ditch your bombs. This will f'up your rank big time.

You wanna kill as many objects with as little ord as possible. And you wanna Land each sortie with out loss.

The other thing you wanna do is get 5 c47 captures a tour.

I know you la7 pilots and rank greifers feel that flying to live is Gamey and dweeby and is the strategy of gamers and cheaters but as I said in another thread its bs.

Bombers sorties ought to be planned to avoid enemy contact and avoid risk. You get nothing at all for killing fighters in bombers. So you ack star folk while you may have fun even oif you get a k/d of 5 to 1 in bombers So what.

Heres a tip for bomber rank. take 1 lanc to a city or training facility and with 1 4k bomb and 9 1 ks. Just drop the 1 4k bomb dead center (if ta drop dead center on 1 or the tent "squares". Then rtb. DO NOT DROP THE 1KS. What happens is you drop 1 bomb and kill a crap load of structures.

Dive bombing, missing you drop, ditching your bombs and getting killed and no field captures will make sure you bomber rank is crappy.

[Wotan]

GV/Boats

Air Categories
Kills per Death
Kills per Sortie
Kills per Time
Hit percentage
Air points

Ground Categories
Damage per Death
Damage per Sortie
Bombing percentage
Ground points
Field captures

You combine what I told you about Fighter and bomber ranks.

Kill, kill fast and kill alot. Dont die. Kill as many structures with as little ord/ammo as possible. Never Ditch and Capture a few fields in an m3.

Taking out a twn in an ost or m16 then coming back to capture it will get you a good score.

Destroy as much as you can per sortie and you will get a good score.

[Wotan]

Attack

Air Categories
Kills per Death
Kills per Sortie
Kills per Time
Hit percentage
Air points

Ground Categories
Damage per Death
Damage per Sortie
Bombing percentage
Ground points
Field captures

Again the same with GVS. Kill, kill alot, kill fast and dont die. When dropping bombs you wanna kill as many structures as possible with the least amount of ord.

Its terrible for rank to go after  lone structures like fighter hangers etc. For rank twns are great so are strat objects. You must never ditch your ord even if their are nme fighters. Either withdraw or get to target to drop.

Killing gvs are pt boats are terrible for rank. You put yourself at risk and most of the time its at min 1 bomb 1 kill. Sometimes multiple bombs per kill. Plus since 99% of the gvs you encounter are ostwinds not only do you risk your Damage per sortie/ damage per death and Bombing percentage but your kills/time and kills/sortie are limited. Straffing gvs hurts unless all your rounds impact the enemy.

[Wotan]

Now theres room there for folks to take advantage and increase there rank through milkruns etc. But to those who claim that those who fly for rank are "gamers". Thats bs. These are the guys that fly to live, That mix it up all across the board. These aint the suicide jabo dudes. These aint the 3k bomber ackstars or the suicide bombers. These arent the dudes at 30k cherry picking with k/t of 4.

Hell I just like to fight myself. Bombers are boring, gvs mostly piss me off and  the only attack plane I fly is the 190f8. From a few of the other threads where folks were complaining how the new cash prize system will lead to "gamey" behavior just check the kill stats of those who are the loudest complainers. When you see a guy with 4 typh kills and 20 deaths you pretty much know what he up to in the main.

The rest were la7 p51d and spit guys with k/t of 3 an hour.

From my perspective its the guys on the lower end of the rank scale who are the "gamers". But I have no ill will toward how anyone flies. If HT wants to set up a prize for those with the best rank scores it wont effect me 1 bit. Good luck to those who go for it.

[brady]

He did u big favor m8t:)

[Dowding (Work)]

If what you say is true, I think you've just convinced me why scoring and rank is an absolute waste of time. You have to fly in some bizarre, counter-intuitive way in order to squeeze the most out of your flight time. It's stupid.

"Milk-run to unopposed facility. Drop just the block-buster bomb. RTB with 60% of bombload. Watch bomb rating increase."

If you wanted to attack the facility just for kicks, any enjoyment is completely removed because you're milkrunning and may as well be offline.

If you wanted to help the war effort, you're only doing a small amount of damage compared to your potential.

It would be nice to win the $100, but it would be a pain in the arse to do, IMO. Kind of like working.

[Wotan]

you are correct Dowding but its closer to "real" then what you see now. If in ah you could just load a 4k you would you cant so you carry the extra ord.

You need to plan a route that avoids the enemy.

1 bomber has very little impact on the "war effort".

Bombers get flown at a reasonable alt. No 3k death runs or dive bombing from 30k.

I agree its boring. But you get plenty of milkrunners hitting these targets anyway. Most miss and end up with at a low end rank. Milkrunning happens whether its about rank or not.

Theres a balance you can achieve between straight rank flying and having fun.

I myself care nothing about the "war effort". Its because of the "war effort" we have massed suicide raids and dive bombing buffs. I dont care who resets who or who gets those 20 perks.  The best way to improve your rank is to look at the guy ranked higher then you, look at all the numbers and work on improving in those areas where you lack. But this is only for those who give a crap about rank.

Also its not like taking these steps to improve your rank are overwhelmingly time consuming. In less then 5 sorties your bomber rank will be far above the averge.

It all depends on what you want out of ah. If your stats and rank mean something to you or if you want to try and get the prize money then here is the "easiest" way to do it.

If you enjoy ah for the air combat or flying with friends and stats mean nothing to you well good. If you enjoy helping your side "win" the war thats great to.

But some of the animosity that this contest brought out is absurd, especially when you look at the guys complaining.

Its all about fun. Some will have fun trying to "win" the money. Some will have fun hunting some these guys down to stop umm.

Some could careless about the whole thing.

YMMV

[wipass]

wotan

Thanks, made a lot of sense and I am sure will be of help to quite a few players as well as me.

Whilst I don't spend my energy on attaining rank. I do aim for a top 100 spot, made it once I think.

Thanks again

wipass

[X2Lee]

Originally posted by Wotan
. These are the guys that fly to live

The whole secret to rank. RTB, fly to live
And, hit what you shoot or bomb.

 Real simple, real easy. Look! I explained it in one sentance

[Apar]

The reason  why I don't like the idea is this.

Up till now AH was a mixture of people flying lonewolf, or in squadron, playing to win the war, or just for fun. The MA consists of cherry pickers, milkrunners, perk dweebs, furball maniacs, vulchers, dedicated GV drivers, dedicated bomber pilots, late war plane fanatics, early war plane fanatics, just plain 'one plane or plane series' fanatics, suicide dweebs, score potatos, etc etc etc.
People do what they want to do in the MA pure for pleasure nothing more nothing less.

Why lobside this balance by rewarding just a certain type of players (score fanatics) for their high overal rank? I really don't see the point. It leads to the idea that high scored players are 'better AH gamers' than for instant dedicated bomber pilots or GV drivers, which are game features HTC included himself.

I don't give a damn about the money, but it seems to me that money prices belong to Events and tournements, and not to the daily fun in the MA.

Oh, and ya can check my stats anytime, it's pointless, because I don't fly for score.