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« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2002, 11:21:06 AM »
Wotan, suggest you try it ;)

Okay, now, put up against AVG's score a guy that has 1/10 the time online, a better K/D ratio and a better everything else, but has 1/10 the kills....ranked LOWER they are.

Score means NOTHING in AH. wotan. Sorry, argue it all you want.

Time online=More kills=Higher ranking. Period.

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« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2002, 11:23:07 AM »
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Seems to be the easiest way is to have two accounts, and I suspect it is happening already. Two accounts, two P.C.'s on a home network. Logon early morning when not many people are on and keep killing yourself. I think it is already happening - was on last night (4.00 a.m. EST) when someone landed over 70 kills in a field gun! That equated to over the total of any two sides combined.


Would be interesting to have game logs you could look at online like Air Warrior had.  (AW even let you save the log as a text file)

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« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2002, 11:30:53 AM »
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Time online=More kills=Higher ranking. Period.


Sorry Ripsnort, but the facts are not on your side:

Tour 34 Figures Top 5

#1 AGJV44  Time Online 97:32:37
#2 GPreddy :) Time Online 186:07:27
#3 Fester Time Online 179:28:50
#4 Booky Time Online 69:25:44
#5 Lazer Time online 135:30:56
« Last Edit: December 04, 2002, 11:42:50 AM by Turbot »

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« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2002, 11:32:31 AM »
no your wrong time online means nothing and hit % in fighters does not go up for straffing ground structures.

These are the 5 things that make up "fighter rank". If you strafe structures in fighter mode your hit percentage vrs nme goes down and it negatively effects your fighter rank.

Air Categories
Kills per Death
Kills per Sortie
Kills per Time
Hit percentage
Air points


Tried and tested and you are wrong.

You are just regurgitating something you read on the bbs.

Can strafing your own structures in any other mode increase hit %? Yes, but against structures and only in attack, bomber or in gvs. I didnt type it out before because it best to keep these quiet. You are still wrong though about fighters. Anyway hit % only effects rank marginally as the category isnt that "tight". K/T is the 1 category where a slight movement up or down greatly effects rank.

Whos arguing that rank means anything? If any one its you by claiming it means cheating/gaming  and greater time online. Check bradys fighter rank from last tour. 10 hours in fighters ranked within 100.

I made it clear as to what rank means to me.

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« Reply #34 on: December 04, 2002, 11:34:24 AM »
i dont really expect i will ever get top 100, even so to those who do WTG to those who get top 15WTFG i you and gl:)

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« Reply #35 on: December 04, 2002, 11:41:50 AM »
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Can strafing your own structures in any other mode increase hit %? Yes, but against structures and only in attack, bomber or in gvs.


He kept it secret even from his own squad - Wotan you bastage!

FYI: While shooting at airplanes with a GV last night, I hit the tower while trying to lead my target - it kill shootered my ostwind turret dead.

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« Reply #36 on: December 04, 2002, 11:47:19 AM »
Well, Wotan maybe I don't know how to game the score then?

Here's an example:


Swoop
10 to 1  k/d ratio fighters
.600 k/d ratio Attack
4.666 k/d ratio GV
Gunnery 13.09
Time Online 3:20
Total kills 34
Rank 132

Whels
5 to 1 k/d ratio fighters
2.66 k/d ratio Attack
1.5 k/d ratio GV
Gunnery 8.5%
Time online 7.08
total kills 49
Rank 10

Its quite clear to me that these rankings should be reversed.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2002, 11:50:22 AM by Ripsnort »

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« Reply #37 on: December 04, 2002, 11:55:12 AM »
This is an easy one.  Whels has flown 13 bomber sorties (rank 75), Swoop has flown none (rank 1017).

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« Reply #38 on: December 04, 2002, 12:07:45 PM »
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Time online=More kills=Higher ranking. Period.


For the most part I agree with you.  It's doubtful you'll find anyone who flies an hour a day achieving the kind of points necessary to rank highly.  Ceteris parebis, the guy who flies more frequently always ranks higher.

Wotan also clearly understates the case for vulching, as many "elite" pilots plan to participate in missions or sorties with a high probability of vulching involved.  So it's not so much a matter of someone who, as Wotan states, "vulches just like you all the guys that are ranked lower."  It's a matter of degree.  Vulching almost always increases K/D, K/S, K/T, and hit percentage.  If you vulch far more than the average player, these stats will reflect that.  In any event, it wouldn't be uncommon to score vulch-likely sorties in the Fighter category and other missions as Attack, thereby inflating Fighter stats.

Case in point:  I usually score my missions as Attack because I'm lazy and don't care about score anyway.  One tour (32 I believe), the only fighter missions I flew were in Seafires from CVs parked right near enemy bases.  The result of such easy access to vulching:  K/D of 6.6, K/S of 4.0, K/T of 20.16, and a hit percentage greater than 20%.  Skillful?  Not really, but the stats reflect my greater than average propensity to vulch that tour.  Only points kept me from achieving a higher overall fighter rank (based on ranking by individual stats) because I didn't fly enough total hours to engage in even more vulching opportunities.

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« Reply #39 on: December 04, 2002, 12:13:41 PM »
Try reading how overall rank 1st of all.

Whels

fighter rank = 83
bomber = 75
attack = 87
gv = 21

total = 266

Swoop

fighter rank = 14
bomber = 1017
attack = 406
gv =  24

total = 1461

You tell me who should have the higher overall rank. Its pretty obvious from where I am.

The answer is whels. And it aint because he has more time playing AH. If swoop cared he could fly a few bomber sorties and be higher then whels with less time online.

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Well, Wotan maybe I don't know how to game the score then?


Actually, it looks as if you just dont know how the score works period.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2002, 12:23:56 PM by Wotan »

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« Reply #40 on: December 04, 2002, 12:14:33 PM »
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This is an easy one.  Whels has flown 13 bomber sorties (rank 75), Swoop has flown none (rank 1017).


That in itself shows how flawed the system is, my friend. ;)

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« Reply #41 on: December 04, 2002, 12:22:02 PM »
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This is an easy one.  Whels has flown 13 bomber sorties (rank 75), Swoop has flown none (rank 1017).


question:

How can one be ranked in the 2400th area in fighters after flying lots, but rank 1000 in buffs when one has not flown at all? Does that mean there are like another 1000 players who've also never flown a buff (to make up the difference)?

tia,

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« Reply #42 on: December 04, 2002, 12:22:23 PM »
Levi is correct but just vulching in the main now is different as there are a higher number of "vulchers" at field now. In the face of a mass raid the "vulchees" dry up quickly.

Time online = more time in plane and more experience and seemingly more "skill". So in that sense you would expect a new guy would have a worse rank then a guy who has flown 200 hours a month for the last year.

But time online alone doesnt translate directly to a higher rank. You still have to do something while online.

I cant believe any one thinks that rank = "skill". But not everyone on the upper end of the rank scale "cheats, games, killsteals and vulches exclusively".
« Last Edit: December 04, 2002, 12:25:24 PM by Wotan »

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« Reply #43 on: December 04, 2002, 12:22:57 PM »
yes horn

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« Reply #44 on: December 04, 2002, 12:32:49 PM »
I always thought the best way to increase rank was to drop troops and up a fighter before they capture the field...