Post here, How to get a better rank the easy way.

[Dead Man Flying]

Originally posted by Wotan
Levi is correct but just vulching in the main now is different as there are a higher number of "vulchers" at field now. In the face of a mass raid the "vulchees" dry up quickly.

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Things haven't changed that much in two or three tours.    There are still plenty of targets for vulchers.  Vulching still provides an easy avenue for inflating statistics, and those who participate in vulching relatively more often should possess higher stats than those who do not.

Time online = more time in plane and more experience and seemingly more "skill". So in that sense you would expect a new guy would have a worse rank then a guy who has flown 200 hours a month for the last year.

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Time online is hardly a measure of actual or potential skill.  A newbie with 200 hours online this month is still going to get his butt kicked by a seasoned vet with only 5 hours this month.  And by the same token, you can't honestly compare two vets, one with 200 hours per month for the last year and one with 30 hours per month for the last year, and say that one is better than the other due to experience.  It's not about how much time is spent playing; it's about how wisely one spends that time.

But time online alone doesnt translate directly to a higher rank. You still have to do something while online.

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Well, kinda.  It's possible to have a really crappy K/D, K/S, K/T, and hit percentage and still lead in points by a huge margin by virtue of time played.  As mentioned by me earlier, though, what time online really allows one to do is to engage in rank and stat building activities to a much greater total degree than someone who flies less often.  So even if K/D, K/S, K/T, and hit percentage are equal, the player who plays more will have many more points and, as such, a much higher rank.

I cant believe any one thinks that rank = "skill". But not everyone on the upper end of the rank scale "cheats, games, killsteals and vulches exclusively".

I think the best way to put it is that rank may be a measure of skill.

-- Todd/Leviathn

[Wotan]

if you take your example of your attack rank.

more time online would have allowed your individaul attack rank to get better with a higher point total.

From the numbers you posted you were most likely in the top 10 anyway.

Another 9 point movement up in your attack rank wont impact your overall rank that much. Maybe enough to move you up a few rank places but still only 9 points.

To have the number 1 overall rank your point totals from all 4 categories combined have to be lower then everyone elses.

I agree that more time online can mean more time to work on getting all your rank categories lower but not always.

The number 1 ranked player last tour had half the hours online of the 2nd ranked guy. The 9th ranked overall had half the hours online of the number 1 ranked player.

Anyway rank is there if you care, if not then so what........

[Halo]

Bravo, Wotan and Apar!

[Dead Man Flying]

Originally posted by Wotan
I agree that more time online can mean more time to work on getting all your rank categories lower but not always.

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Time is certainly a factor, but you're right in that it is not the only factor.  Flying style and tactics really matter the most for stats regardless of time flown, though flying style and tactics don't speak to actual skill level.

Anyway rank is there if you care, if not then so what........

I stopped caring about rank since the first day I flew.    More power to the rank warriors.

-- Todd/Leviathn

[Urchin]

Well, guys, I'll let you know how my attempt at the 'top 15 goes'.

Right now I'm ranked (well, I dunno, cause I havent checked)...  

I was ranked 10 in GVs, 14 in fighter, and 30 something in attack last time.  I had 1 good vulch in fighters that got me like 10 kills, but I got stupid and got killed instead of going to land them.  Thats the only vulch I've had this tour so far.  Haven't run a bomber sortie yet, but I'm not going to do the 'drop 1 4k bomb and go RTB, rearm, come back and drop another 4k bomb' thing.

Am I going to milkrun?  Yea, most likely.  I'll up a bomber box of B-17s and go hit some factory somewhere, but rest assured I'll drop every single damned bomb trying to kill the whole thing.  

I'll let you know if it is possible to crack the top 15 without being to 'gamey'.  I've never done dumb stuff like strafed my own hangars in attack mode, but I still usually end up with a pretty good attack ranking.  Fighter ranking, thats pretty much a given for me that I'll have a good rank.  

Only things that are left are the GV (which 2 sorties in a Flakpansie took care of for now) and bomber (which I dread because I find em so booorrrriiiinnnngggg).

[weaselsan]

Two computers networked,two accounts. Up a formation of ju88 in an area of the map not being used. Over water is best. Then ping the lead plane with a 202 (don't waste ammo) then auger the ju88. Land 120 kills with a 202 per hour and set a new record.

[Voss]

I started to give hints for all categories a little over a month ago and was told, "Stop trying to act like your [sic] smart."

It's a lot easier then you might think, but flying a lot will not help you. Suicide will only make your rank suffer. If, you suck in fighters, then you're out of luck because this category can't be gamed (except by cheating and I bet HTC disqualifies you for that). Don't waste any eggs or rockets, hit what you shoot at, and don't die. Capture stuff.

[Samm]

How can you do it if you spend <4hrs a week in the MA ?

[X2Lee]

Originally posted by Voss
If, you suck in fighters, then you're out of luck because this category can't be gamed

You can suck at fighters and still get a high fighter rank.
Good SA is all it takes. Of course, good SA is boring as hell.

Also working to get a high rank is boring as hell.
And getting a high rank is hard, boring work....    

Cant we all just furball?    

[Wotan]

weaselsan just roadkill it will take longer then an hour for you to reup 120 times. As crowded as the maps are you will have little luck doing this unseen.

Besides that only helps fight rank. Fighter rank is not part of prize its overall rank.

Make as many bs scenarios as you want, that dont make umm true. Go check the stats who has over 120 ju88 kills in a 202.

Quit spreading this type of bullcrap. To my line of thinking its equal to what lonz did and it got him banned for a month.

I hope ht cracks on this type of stuff. It only hurts ah in the long run. If you have proof put it up or STFU.

[bj229r]

What all this goes to show is if im gettin run down like the dog I am..situation deteriorating.....more nmy showin up....cant quite get a good shot off because im dodging more and more planes (i get in such things a lot as i usually attack bases)...and I see a green guy comin to save me--whoa....its... (fill-in-the-blank #6 or #7 fighterranked fighter guy....) I'm fluff'n DEAD because he's not gonna risk his rank tryin to bail me out (of course he/she doesnt mind vulching the field i just wrecked)---my point is..to achieve rank the way AH sets it up...TEAMwork is like # 163 on list of importance.

[eskimo2]

Originally posted by Voss
I started to give hints for all categories a little over a month ago and was told, "Stop trying to act like your [sic] smart."

Actually you were using your “hints” as a means to insult players both online and on the BB.  You do so with arrogance and that makes your “advice” not exactly helpful.  You also assume that your way is the only way, once again, arrogance.

eskimo

[eskimo2]

A number of folks have a good understanding of how the score system works.  More than anyone, however, Wotan has taken the time to thoroughly explain the score system and has offered good advice on how to improve one’s score (not only in this thread, but in many others).  

Personally I’ve found that there are so many who bash even the idea of looking at one’s score (let alone intentionally improve it) that offering advice on the subject is all but lost.  
Thank you Wotan, for taking the time to post on the subject amidst a sea of score system bashers.  I know that there are many out there who enjoy playing this game within a game (however imperfect the system may be).

eskimo

[wipass]

In the main some bloody good responses to this thread,

As regards two accounts, in GV mode it would be fairly easy. Just place  a Flak at a spawn point and fire away, respawn and continue. Especially easy on the pizza map.

It certainly goes to show how little some (me) knew about scoring.

wipass

[Apar]

Wotan, good job!