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Offline Jester

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« on: December 06, 2002, 01:00:59 AM »
Dear CT Staff,

I cannot speak directly for the rest on this board but I think the concensis is that all of us are tired of the almost "Hodge Podge" manner in which scenarios are put up in the CT.

I realize you have an almost thankless and time consumeing job but if the CT is going to become a real lasting sucess we need some kind of stability that keeps most if not everyone happy.

We have had several PTO, MTO, CBI & BOB & Eastern Front, (HELL even Korea!) scenarios recently in the CT and it seems the late war ETO has been almost completely forgotten. One of the biggest periods of the airwar in WW2!

Might I suggest that you guys work out some kind of "rolling schedule" for the CT? You could set it up to go Early War - Late War or have it go by Theater. A simple example:

Week 1: BOB
Week 2: Early War PTO
Week 3: Early War Russian Front (as we can get with plane set)
Week 4: Early War MTO
Week 5: Mid to late War PTO
Week 6: Mid to Late War Russian Front
Week 7: Mid to Late War ETO
Week 8: Special Set-up if any.



It takes around 2 months to go through the schedule above. The next time through you could place different terrains in the slots than were there last time. Example: On PTO set-up - the first time through the schedule use the Burma map on early war & one of the Pacific maps for mid war. Second time through swap maps in some places and make one late war.
 
This kind of system should make the majority happy as they know "their" favorite is coming up pretty shortly and they will get to fly thier favorite a/c. The main reason is it is FAIR to all that fly the CT.

Please, the rest of you CT pilots out there, Lets hear your opinion on this.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2002, 01:14:43 AM by Jester »
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« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2002, 06:41:38 AM »
My guess is late war ETO gets overlooked because it is the one planeset that is competitive in the MA.   It would be true in the PTO too, except that the tiny Japanese planeset mostly constrains the CT staff to 1944.   Just a guess though.

Personally I don't care for rigid schedules, but it does seem to be a fair way to ensure all the settings get equal opportunity.  I like what you've done with week 8 as an open, unspecified setup, but maybe it would be better to use it as a "floating" week, which can be inserted into the schedule anywhere - to take advantage of new aircraft from version releases, special anniversary setups, new terrain releases, whatever.

I hate aircraft substitutions, and would rather nix the early war Russian setting than to do it with a bunch of plane subs.

The biggest drawback I see to the plan is for flyers who dislike a particular time period; they could have to wait up to a month for their preferred timeframe to roll around.    That might drive some people off.   (And I realize you been waiting a LONG time for your late-war ETO, Andi).

Does it have to be chronological?   Could the BOB week be followed by late-war PTO, then midwar MTO, then late war ETO, then early war PTO, etc?    Maybe an non-linear schedule like that would provide enough variety in time frame while ensuring all setups get their due.

Enough brainstorming from me.    Somebody else pipe in here now.

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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2002, 07:36:42 AM »
Late war ETO is only competing with the MA if we play the same game as in the MA.  Wotan's 8th AF setup was a great alternatives and really showed what the CT can be.

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« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2002, 08:45:13 AM »
I dont know the schedule thing aint a bad idea atleast then i would know by the schedule posted by andi to show up on weeks 1,2,5,and 7(if the 262 is there)

  and if we have to sub a plane (which i really dont like)atleast re skin it to the proper country.

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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2002, 08:51:52 AM »
SWEAT FING Jesious I have asid a ton of times we have 3 new maps in the works and we will have 44/45 planes sets coming this month. We have held off in the past few weaks doing this set up because of this as well why do I bother wrinting and telling you all this if it is not paied attention to and yes if you were hear I would be yealing at you.:)

           Ok now that I have calmend down a tad I hear your complaints and were are working toward that end please be paitent, if the maps are not ready we will make somthing up on what ever map we can can add hock a 44 set up for you on.

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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2002, 09:20:53 AM »
Summer 1943 ETO would be nice, just for a change of pace. I wouldnt mind doing some Mossie runs or something.  I really like the Norway 1944 setup too.
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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2002, 09:36:22 AM »
Dont sweat it brady they will cry for what ever set up that matches the squad they in for this month.

When we did ETO we heard "My God, another ETO" we havent had pac set up in 2 weeks"

Take it with a grain of salt..................

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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2002, 11:04:05 AM »
OBOE: No the schedule I put up was just an example and certainly not set in stone. Much room for revisions.

BRADY: Sorry to "Wiz in your Cheerios" there buddy but am not talking about a couple "in the future" scenarios you have coming up but if YOU WILL READ the above post I was talking something more fixed in the scheduling of the scenarios in the CT.

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Dont sweat it brady they will cry for what ever set up that matches the squad they in for this month.


     I think this is pretty damn uncalled for. Several of us that came to AH from WB's moved to the CT as we really liked it and wanted to make it better. We formed a squad and when we saw the others content to "Seal Clubbing" against the Japanese we decide to split our squad to shore up the Japanese side during the PTO's to make flying there more enjoyable for everyone.
     Even on forming our new squad (again to bring another permanent squad to the CT and attract pilots from the MA) we still fly Japanese in the PTO's because almost no one else is willing too.
     I don't think too much of this crack especially since you don't see too much of "Certain Axis Squads" (Who will remain unnamed) willing to do the same.

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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2002, 12:31:34 PM »
Well this thread sure turned ugly in a hurry.  I thought we were just kicking around an idea!

Must be pre-release angst?   Everyone edgy and fed up with the long wait for 1.11?

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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2002, 01:17:46 PM »
To be honest I dont think v1.11 is gonna be all that hopefully by v1.12 the mission theatre will be introduced that might cause some excitement,i'am already over v1.11 and it aint even released yet.Also next Wed. it's gonna be released.


  Guys it dont matter to me what setup u run or when the good thing is we have a choice to fly MA or CT I remember when that choice wasn't there so be thankful for what you got.:)

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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2002, 02:08:22 PM »
I have fun in every set-up, and look forward to each upcoming set-up as well.  Every set-up has some great things going for it and some downers too.  I.E., This last one had a great plane match, but the air bases were awfully far apart.

The point is; we get a to live a different part of WWII aviation history every week.  It rarely get's old, and it rarely ends too quickly.

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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2002, 02:34:41 PM »
"you can make some of the ppl happy some of the time but not all the ppl happy all of the time"

I think that's the way it goes

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« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2002, 03:26:33 PM »
Just kicking around ideas here , whatever, we fly em all come squad night.
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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2002, 03:28:47 PM »
I have a feeling we are in for a month or more of 43+ setups :(
Seems to me like we are allways doing mid-latewar setups, but O guess to those who like mid-latewar setups it seems like we are allways doing early :D

I just don't under stand why people have been craving late war so much lately? seemed to me we've been having quit a few late war setups lately..

The reason I like Early war so much is because its Allways latewar in MA, so CT gives u a chance to fly somethin different.
Don't get me wrong, do like hopping in an F4u1-a or a Bf-110 in 1944' every now and then, but by early 1944 the airwar was practically won by the allies, and not much was done but ground attack.   And I like to have to get close to enemeis, instead of just pingin em 2-3 times with a 20mm from 700 yards away :)

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« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2002, 05:50:49 PM »
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Originally posted by Andijg


WOTAN:
 

     I think this is pretty damn uncalled for. Several of us that came to AH from WB's moved to the CT as we really liked it and wanted to make it better. We formed a squad and when we saw the others content to "Seal Clubbing" against the Japanese we decide to split our squad to shore up the Japanese side during the PTO's to make flying there more enjoyable for everyone.
     Even on forming our new squad (again to bring another permanent squad to the CT and attract pilots from the MA) we still fly Japanese in the PTO's because almost no one else is willing too.
     I don't think too much of this crack especially since you don't see too much of "Certain Axis Squads" (Who will remain unnamed) willing to do the same.


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