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Offline Saurdaukar

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« on: December 08, 2002, 06:56:52 PM »
With all the coverage on these boards regarding that "Taken" show, I became curious about how many people here believe in the existance of life on other worlds.

Any thoughts or interesting theories?
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Offline mrfish

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« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2002, 07:25:06 PM »
interesting question. i think they exist but i don't think they've been here yet.

there's about 140-200 billion galaxies in the universe as a rough guess and ours alone has about 400 billion stars. each star could have who knows how many planets....and life seems to pop up at the slightest chance. if we were alone it'd be pretty bizarre.

i think they have the same trouble crossing the distances that we do - i dont believe in any magic mind power machines or special technology, i think they are just as stuck as we are and what a shame!  the universe is pretty much the same everywhere so i doubt they'd have any special edge.

some day maybe.....
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Offline gatso

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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2002, 07:33:23 PM »
Course they do.

The Universe is a mind bogglingly big place. To expect that we are entirely alone is staggeringly arrogant.

They might not be close, they might not be very common, but they are out there I am sure.

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« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2002, 07:38:56 PM »
Nah, if life is so easy to do.  Then why hasn't the galaxy been populate several times over?  Where's the damn radio waves?
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« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2002, 07:51:53 PM »
radio waves only travel at the speed of light though. our galaxy alone is about 100,000 light years across.

the large magellanic cloud is forever away- about 180,000 light years and the andromeda galaxy even further - about 3,000,000 light years out!

do the math, it's a long way......and we've only known what a radio wave is for less than a century!

the universe is only about 12 billlion years old - it's not like they would evolve to send radio waves over night- or microwaves or any other frequency of light in a recognizable pattern.

we've a long way to go.
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Offline Thrawn

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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2002, 08:08:11 PM »
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radio waves only travel at the speed of light though. our galaxy alone is about 100,000 light years across.


Only about 30,000 light years across.

Life has had 12,000,000,000 years to  develope?  Where is it?
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Offline WldThing

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« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2002, 08:14:32 PM »
ET's do Exist..

With the size of the universe.. How could anyone not think that they exist?
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Offline Thrawn

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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2002, 08:17:19 PM »
HEY FISH!!


God does Exist..

With the size of the universe.. How could anyone not think that he exists?


With the size of the univces and it's age...where the hell are they?  Or is just this a belief?  With no actual proof?  Sounds like a religion to me.  :D



Prove it!  Prove it!  Prove it!   Muahahhah!
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Offline Toad

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« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2002, 08:24:18 PM »
They exist.

They are here.

No, I mean they're REALLY HERE[/g].

They were in the MA tonite.

HTC has hired them as moderators..... and they are, to listen to the very, very few snifflers in the MA....... extremely mean and aggressive persons.

Why it seem that out of this huge player base, they've warned and muted as many as a fraction of a percent over the last few months!!!!!

If that doesn't alarm you, I just wonder about you!
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« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2002, 08:35:56 PM »
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Only about 30,000 light years across.


what you're referencing the thinkness of the - i always grin when i say it: 'galactic bulge'  not the diameter of our spiral. even then in our neighborhood the disk is about 10,000 light years thick- give or take.

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« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2002, 08:47:13 PM »
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what you're referencing the thinkness of the - i always grin when i say it: 'galactic bulge'  not the diameter of our spiral. even then in our neighborhood the disk is about 10,000 light years thick- give or take.

;)


Oh yeah! Well, according to this website, http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/astronomy/MilkyWayGalaxy.html , you are right and Iam wrong.

30,000 light years is the distance from the earth to the center of the galaxy, must have been thinking "Final Frontier" or some toejam.
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Offline mrfish

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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2002, 08:48:42 PM »
you gotta admit she's pretty hot-

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Offline Vulcan

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« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2002, 09:27:17 PM »
Simple odds are it does exist.

But the question is does it break into a civilised stage and does it survive it?

A lot of evolutionary lotto wins had to fall into place for humanity to get where it is, for example, walking upright, opposable thumbs, mastering tools, not getting wiped out by and asteroid (a la dinosaurs), having the right atmospheric conditions to develop chemical and electrical skills etc etc.

Then theres the timeline odds: an entire race might have evolved, developed, sent out radio signals, and died again and we could easily have missed it.

The odds are yes there is ET's, but the odds are extremely slim of us co-existing in the right timeframe and communicating over the distance.
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« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2002, 09:33:36 PM »
It would be very egotistical for us to believe that we are the sole form of intelligent life in the universe (that is if you consider us humans to be intelligent forms of life :)).  Whether it is humanoid is up for debate, but you never know.
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Offline john9001

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« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2002, 09:34:30 PM »
silly earthling, of course we exsist
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