F4U-1C PERKED!

[hazed-]

     

Originally posted by AKDejaVu:
I'm always amazed at people that believe the best way to promote diversity is through limitation.

Those that want to fly the best plane, will just move to the next best plane... and that's "all you will see"... only now there is one less other plane to fly.

AKDejaVu

i dont claim this is definately the way forward AKdeja but i want to test ideas to see if it improves and if it doesnt change back .that is what i meant.Why is everything the END of the world? 1 tour then make up your mind.

7 perks is minor and means you cant just up from a base firing laser cannons without eventually running out of perk points but if you fly one well it pays for itself in a few sorties especially if used for jabo.

it may be that it needs to be even lower at 3 perks or 2 then it would not penalise an average player as theoretically, you can get 2-3 perks each sortie forever but a newbie or poor flyer who uses it to ho and spray with will soon find it unavailable to them.It will need fine tuning by HTC and i dont envy them the task but i think their idea is very workable and i <S> them for trying to answer customers concerns.

lets just give it a try AKDejavu

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Hazed
3./JG2

btw if you think you are being flooded with doras( one i fly as example) and request it perked and numbers back it up then i'll pay perks for it.
I'll even agree to perk it even if the numbers show it unjustified just to prove to you i think this WILL mean a more diverse target enviroment for us.I think  perk system should be dynamic and set by the stats themselves then who could argue?.agreeing on the level that sets the perk?.....thats a whole other story  


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[AG Sachsenberg]

 

Originally posted by AKDejaVu:
total kills had nothing to do with it.  Most everyone posting in this thread really has no problem dispatching F4u-1Cs, they are just pissed that people are flying them... as if it matters what the enemy is flying.

Time to feel superior to something else.

AKDejaVu

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[AKDejaVu]

Hazed, we have no choice but to give it a try.

I don't like that the CHOG whines went to such an extreme.

I don't like that the post perk celebration is so extreme.

Its insulting to quite a few people that actually flew the plane.  Unfortunately, very few people who post here seem to realize that.

AKDejaVu

[hazed-]

AKDejaVu you cant be anymore offended than i am when anything i say concerning an LW aircraft is called a 'luftwobble whine' etc .

You have to ignore the crap but i admit its been getting to me lately also.

Let them(ones who insulted your F4c     ) be smug.What we all know is HTC is not swayed by whines.I'd bet they think its right to try to balance/vary available planes to mold the arena to their desired atmosphere and they see the numbers like us.

<S> AKDejaVu

p.s. come on deja, the guys you fly F4ucs with cant afford this?      i have 800 or so fighter perks which is by no means the highest and im sure some AKs have double that.


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Hazed
3./JG2
reading your post again deja im wondering if you mean pilots who flew them being offended  or something? I hardly think a WW2 vet would give a sh*t what goes on in a game    . whaddaya takeus fa?

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[AKDejaVu]

Hazed, I haven't flown the F4u-1C for 6 months.  I've been prepping for the introduction of the P-40 and have been trying to work my way down the foodchain.

Its not insulting to me.  It is, none the less, insulting.

Is it the same as calling someone a LW dweeb?  Maybe, but then I'm not trying to get all LW birds removed from the game to satisfy my own personal prefferences.

AKDejaVu

[StSanta]

Hm, I'm not so sure what there is to be upset about.

It's an incredibly cheap perk plane. There is an in fm terms equal F4U just waiting.

The perk system is suppposed to be a fluid and dynamic thing, it's not set in stone.

There is little whines when a plane like the TA-152 and Tempests are (relatively) expensive perk planes, because we're used to it. Now, HTC have seen the stats and decided that the chog usage has beeen very heavy. So they use the perk point system (which many of the choggers were cheerleading) to use an inbuilt mechanism to give more diversity. And the same chog crowd goes wild.

It really amazes me, this inconsistency, this hypocricy.

Djv, I believe the perk point system can be used to add diversity. Indeed, that's one of the reasons it was introduced; we got the Ta and Tempest because of it. While one can argue for a long time about regulating player behaviour, this is only done in a very minor way. It's not like this forces you to abandond your former playing style.

Also, with less chogs, I've seen more bombers. When people cannot cv dweeb a field down, they have to (gasp) use more realistic tactics. And even take buffs!

Now, perk the d9, g10, la7, p51, n1k and that fast arse yak and we're on the way to something good  .



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[easymo]

  Two whole Japanese planes, and they want one of them perked. Lets see.. ya, that's half the plane set.

[Shamus]

Anyone else notice a crapload of tiffies flying around tonight?

Shamus

[Zigrat]

i agree with easymo

at the current juncture, you coudlnt perk the n1k because of lack of other jap planes

after the ki84 and mabye ki100 are in the game then you could look at it

the f4u-1c is the perfect perk since f4u lovers can just ride the f4u-1d for free

[Jebo44]

Well I liked the Chog for one reason and that was for close air support for ground forces. I haven't looked at the stats and I am sure I am wrong, but did anyone think to see that it was used by everyone in that role as well. I mean I try not to HO someone but watermelon happens. Normally I try to avoid a fight if I am in a chog cause my main goal is to hit a VH somewhere.

I ain't whining...but I don't like the idea of a perk system. Thats my opinion, which my thirty dollars a month allows me. I think that if you pay that kind of money you should get everything the game offers. But thats me and not many others. If the planes are perked there perked, nothing I can do about that. I'll play till I get tired of it and leave and that is really the only thing any of us can do.  

[Spatula]

I never had too much problems with chogs, its the guns that make it really dangerous.

My bet is the tiff will become the dweeb mobile now, its the only other non-perk with 4 turbo-lasers.

Besides, i've been killing with 6 50s for some 15 tours without a problem, so hog drivers arent really that disadvantaged IMO.

[Karnak]

Just for edification and amusement:

Stats after 1st day of Tour 16:

The N1K2 has 414 kills and has been killed 390 times.

The Spitfire Mk IX has 337 kills and has been killed 336 times.

The Ostwind has 271 kills and has been killed 189 times.

The F4U-1C has 248 kills and has been killed 142 times.

The La-7 has 234 kills and has been killed 215 times.

The Typhoon IB has 223 kills and has been killed 167 times.

The P-51D has 197 kills and has been killed 206 times.

The Bf 109G-10 has 167 kills and has been killed 142 times.

The F4U-1D has 149 kills and has been killed 174 times.

The Fw 190D-9 has 142 kills and has been killed 99 times.


It seems that after 1 day of Tour 16 no unit has twice as many kills as the unit below it.  The ratio between the Spitfire MkIX and the N1K2 seems to be favoring the N1K2 a bit more than in Tour 15.  The Typhoon has a noticeably better ratio of use than it had in Tour 15, not that it breaches the top 5.  Both the N1K2 and Typhoon have FM issues that I would love to see HTC fix.

Now that we have the initial returns our system predicts Al Gore as the winner....no, wait, we take that back ITS George Bush...oops, our apologies, it seems to favor Al Gore and he will be the ne...No wait, our most abject apologies, George Bush is the.... OH HECK, WE DON"T KNOW WHAT THE <BLEEP> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.  


(I hope everyone takes that as the non-partisan, self depreciating joke that it was intended as)

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[R4M]

 

Originally posted by blutic:
The f4u-C was not perked when I opened my account. I like the cannon, I like the speed in a dive, I like the color. Now it is taken away.

You know, in the hangar?...the plane in the list?...yes...the one IMMEDIATLY below the Chog?.

Look, it is called F4U1-D. It is blue. It is fast in a dive. It has no cannon, but has six wonderful 50 cals wich can do a lot, a lot of harm.

And it is free.


 

I like planes. Give everyone all the Axis or allied planes they want. Don't take the AC that are already here. In the MA it don't mean squat anyway.

blutic

huhm?...wait a minute...

(pause of 30 seconds or so)

ok, back. I've gone to AH, and the F4U1-c is listed in the hangar options...look, YES! is THERE!...wow...

Me thinks they didnt "take it away from the game"

They simply made a 200-run produced plane a perkie because it was getting 27000 kills each tour. THe plane is there, but now your HeadOns will risk 8 perkies each one.

Pissed?...sorry, get a Dhog and learn some ACM, for a change.

P.S.Thunder I LOVE that pic.  

[mrfish]

 this chog thing is funny - i am mediocre at best and as of today could do like 60 choggy flights on my fighter perkies....its only 7 pts - enough for balance of a low run plane and cheap enough to fly almost constantly. i mean if you land one now and then it will pay for itself. its cheap enough so that everyone can fly one... kind of a 'volks-hog'

[SOB]

 

Originally posted by Citabria:
8 points dweebs  

Didn't you quit yesterday after another tantrum?