Author Topic: Tiger is missing the NbK 39 90mm smoke generators (Read 784 times)

Ripsnort · « **on:** December 19, 2002, 07:42:04 AM »

...asssuming this is the Early Tiger 1 model. Could we get these please?

brady · « **Reply #1 on:** December 19, 2002, 07:56:24 AM »

We have an early model Tiger it did not have that, it did often have the two 3 each smoke discharges on the sides of the turet and the single ones around the hull howeaver, and It did not have an AA MG on that couple.I beleave they could also fire S mines from these discharges.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #2 on:** December 19, 2002, 08:03:53 AM »

Tiger1 info:

Quote

Specifications

Weight:
56000kg (early)
57000kg (late)
Crew:
5 men
Engine:
Maybach HL 210 P 45 - 12 cylinder / 650hp (early)
Maybach HL 230 P 45 - 12 cylinder / 700hp (late)
Fuel Capacity:
534 liters (four tanks)
Speed:
Road 38km/h
Cross-Country 10-20km/h
Range:
Road: 140km
Lenght:
8.45m
Width:
3.4-3.7m
Height:
2.93m
Armament:
88mm KwK 36 L/56
2 x 7.92mm MG34 (early)
3 x 7.92mm MG34/42 (late)
6 x NbK 39 90mm smoke generators (early)
Ammo:
88mm - 92 rounds
7.92mm - 4500-5700 rounds
Armor (mm/angle):
Front Turret: 100/8
Front Upper Hull: 100/10
Front Lower Hull: 100/24
Side Turret: 80/0
Side Upper Hull: 80/0
Side Lower Hull: 80/8
Rear Turret: 80/0
Rear Hull: 80/8
Turret Top / Bottom: 25/81-90
Upper Hull Top / Bottom: 25/90
Lower Hull Top / Bottom: 25/90
Gun Mantlet: 100-110/0

Ripsnort · « **Reply #3 on:** December 19, 2002, 08:05:29 AM »

Quote

Originally posted by brady
We have an early model Tiger it did not have that, it did often have the two 3 each smoke discharges on the sides of the turet .

Think you're talking about the same thing, they were 90MM in diameter and 6 of them (3 on each side)

brady · « **Reply #4 on:** December 19, 2002, 08:07:26 AM »

Ya, I was thinking of this: Nahverleidigungswaffe , man say that 3 tiems fast!:)

Sry Rip.

Wotan · « **Reply #5 on:** December 19, 2002, 08:11:02 AM »

Man i wish the smoke generator on the pt boats worked

Ripsnort · « **Reply #6 on:** December 19, 2002, 08:11:57 AM »

Here's the pic:

brady · « **Reply #7 on:** December 19, 2002, 08:17:23 AM »

Yup.( to both of you:) )

Ripsnort · « **Reply #8 on:** December 19, 2002, 08:19:46 AM »

Quote

Originally posted by Wotan
Man i wish the smoke generator on the pt boats worked

You would *think* that'd be an easy fix...I mean, one can enable Airshow smoke in the TA or offline. Could this part of the code simply be modified for the PT boat? (Hitech?)

Wotan · « **Reply #9 on:** December 19, 2002, 08:34:36 AM »

Brady asked before because the smoke generator is modeled. I am not sure of the answer HT/Pyro gave.

Pts are silly easy kills. The defensive guns are good though. If by adding smoke the pts are givin a better chance at survival then I wish we had it. However I am not sure if say 20 pts spraying smoke would kills fps. I dont imagine it would be much worse then a raped field.

daflea · « **Reply #10 on:** December 19, 2002, 11:13:55 AM »

Nebelwurfgerate (smoke candles) were dropped from production starting with Turm Nr 286 in June 1943, smallarms fire was setting them off. A track was welded to the tops of the cupola periscope guard to server as a track for the Anti-aircraft MG in July 43. The S-Minenwerfers on the deck were dropped from production line on Nov 43.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #11 on:** December 19, 2002, 11:27:27 AM »

I'm assuming we have the Tiger 1, VK 4501(H)

Tiger I heavy tank received the designation of panzerkampfwagen VI Tiger - Sd.Kfz.181. Officially there were only two types of Tiger tanks produced - Ausf H (with full tropical air filter 'Feifel' system - November 1942 to August 1943) and Ausf E(H1) but during the years of production improvements were carried on. Based on their modifications, Tigers can be divided into three main production models - early, mid and late (final)

So, wheres my smoke please?

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #12 on:** December 19, 2002, 12:13:34 PM »

I have never seen a picture of an early cupola Tiger 1 with an AA mg and I have examined more Tiger pictures than prolly 99% of people here. I just have not seen it.

Now out of an interest in the Tiger I would love for anyone to show me an early cupola Tiger 1 with AA mg, otherwise...

daflea · « **Reply #13 on:** December 19, 2002, 12:53:18 PM »

I don't think you'll see a AA MG on any of the old "dustbin" coupla TigersIs...however as I have learned during my work (I do research for an author) "never say never" because sure as hell theres a an ole German tanker out there with a picture of a Tiger I with a fully operatonal Me 109G mount on the turret as a co-ax weapon system.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #14 on:** December 19, 2002, 01:06:43 PM »

LOL I know that about German weapons and I have seen some strange things but no early Tiger 1 with AA mg..