It's Time for Fair & Equitable Pricing

[PakRat]

I still think that the only fair solution is across the board pricing or a tiered structure based on arenas/hours/etc.

There are still a boatload of people out there at $5, $10, $15, $20, and $25 while I pay $30. HTC said they were going to examine the market and implement a new price structure. We have yet to see it or an explanation. It can't take that long to analyze the data.

Troll or no troll, that original post of Myers did remind me about the discrepancies here and my point still stands - It is time for fair and equitable pricing.

[This message has been edited by PakRat (edited 03-25-2001).]

[SOB]

Where did anyone post any proof that HTC is even considering this?

If you feel that AH is worth $30/mo, why do you care what anyone else is paying?  ...why is it any of your business?  If you don't feel that it's worth $30/mo, then why on earth are you subscribing?


SOB

[Lephturn]

I read those other threads, and I don't see where HTC has had anything to do with this.

A bunch of AW guys decided to get together and try to propose something like this to HTC.  I don't even think they got that far.  Somebody posted that communication to stir up toejam, that's all.  Don't go crapping all over HTC when they haven't had anything to do with it.  It was a troll to start exactly the kind of thread you just started.  Don't believe the hype.



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[Torgo]

Sigh.

People can't read.

HTC isn't "soliciting" anyone with a lower rate. It's a bunch of AW guys PLANNING to solicit HTC for a lower rate, which they apparently haven't done yet.

[Mark Luper]

So far all I have seen is conjecture based on nothing. I don't think any of this is happening as it is posted on this MB.

Perhaps it would be good to sit back and see what or if ANYTHING developes before making accusations on the lack of any equanimy in the treatment of customers.

Someone comes in here and posts a troll and it seems a bunch of people start jumping to conclusions.

[Westy]

 Pakrat? You've been or are a union employee somewhere?

 You sound like a union rep.

  -Westy

[Revvin]

I pay a subscription to Aces High and its worth every penny, I don't begrudge them a thing because its a solid product withy regular updates but..........

Pakrat is right, there are some people out there who for whatever reason got offered quite substantially reduced subscriptions to Aces High, even a few guys I know who think of nothing to pick holes in Aces High and have bad mouthed Aces High on other boards and yet they get better rates over any of us? I have only been a subscriber for around 10 months now of an on, had a break during that time of maybe two or three months but that it one cancellation and there are guys here that have stuck by Aces High right from beta the kind of guys that have shown real loyalty and yet these people get better deals over us? I did'nt say much at the time, it did annoy me (especially when deals were offered to those people I mentioned above) but Pyro said it was an experiment to look at better rates for all and so I left the issue alone as he said they were looking into it but HT was on holiday. I really expected an announcement by now but still nothing and still there are some paying much lower rates so come on HTC what's going on? either we all get lower prices from the data you have gained from this experiment which would be great or we all pay the same which is fair

[SFRT - Frenchy]

This is not intended as a marketing ploy to just bring us new customers, it's to gain information about pricing and some other things. It's something that you as a consumer are subjected to everyday whether you realize it or not. We've selected a group of people based on a number of factors and have used them to test out different price points. We can take that information and crunch the numbers and have a good idea whether a different price point would make more sense for us. If we find that to be the case, then everyone benefits. We didnt' put a limit on the duration of the rate because it's the information that we're after and to do that would taint the results.
We know that it seems exclusionary to our core supporters and that's been our chief concern in doing this, but given the choice of not exploring this or going about it in a reckless manner, we think that this is the best option. The goal is not to have multiple price points, it's to have the best price point. If things work out the way we want them to, we'll all benefit.


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Torgo, Westy, Lethturn, SOB, is Pakrat talking about this or I misread your posts?

I also recall Pyro explaining the results of his survey, but I can't find the post.
I'm not participating to the debate, price is not a factor for me. I'm just trying to refresh some memories  

[Beurling]

I fly pay one week a month. 3 weeks i fly h2h. I prefer h2h really. You can work on planes and no one counts your score. Its the best training tool in AH.

1 week a month i go to the ma and k/d fly. Its my tour. If you feel 30 usd is too much this is  a great way to set up your own priceing plan. Htc is so fast that canceling and opening accounts that there is no down time.

There is no reason to play wb aw or fa if you fly this way. 10 to 15 a month is more than enough play at least for me.

The downside is you have to come up with a new name. Some use a number after their name
to identify themselves.

Ken you flew as rags? That guy was a rr player i thought? You were not Westy from aw?
Also i have had a couple of threats from staff in the past i was very suprised to see you post you had some probs with them. In fact one time the name rags came up in a discussion.If what was said was true i understand your posts about aw.

EYE

[Westy]

 That's the one I'm thinking of.

 Please point out where Pyro said the price would absolutely be lowered and when that price drop would occur.

 "A boatload of people" ? Sure. If you're talking an 18' boat perhaps. colorful metaphor from one who has no idea how many people HTC offered a 'special' to in thier market survey. If you took all the posts from people who said a lower price was offered to them or they knew someone who it was offered to then I bet you might be able to outfit two
baseball teasm. Tops.

 If you think you're being ripped. Then pull yourselve out from under the repressive capitalist yoke! Save yourselves from 'the man' and reject his "squeezing blood from the stone" oppressive ways.

  - Westy

Ken you flew as rags? That guy was a rr player i thought? You were not Westy from aw?

Eye, please don't use my first name. And second that was a joke that Mooddog, and several other 'FR' AWiers who posted here the past couple of days,  might have chuckled over. No. I am not Rags. I am the 'Westy' that played AW over a year ago. Although  I did test (for an hour) the new AW:MV on EA's beta about three weeks ago and when I did I took RAGS handle so he couldn't have it.  




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[Beurling]

Ok i wont use your first name. I have a ounce of respect for ya!lol
Yes that guy rags argued alot thats not you in the ma.

 Takeing handels can be so fun

EYE

[Tibbets]

I have a feeling that when WWII Online releases this June that HTC is gonna wish theyd lowered the price earlier. $30 for the boxed version of WWII Online then $9.99 a month is gonna take a lot of people away from AH, even if the arenas are full of 13 year old qauke punks.

[AKDejaVu]

 

HTC said they were going to examine the market and implement a new price structure.

Excellent blend of fact and fiction.  Normal text is fact, bold text is fiction.

I want to pay less for this game.  I am willing to pay what I am paying.  Take that for what its worth.

The "tier" structure you are reffering to is one of the worst community devices that could be implimented.  Elitist arenas based on the amount you pay a month.  Opinions on the BBS considered based on what tier you fit into.

The unlimmited play combined with time on = more points means that larger numbers are encouraged in the arena.  With the exception of those that like sweaping through capturing undefended bases, most people believe more on is better.  I'm pretty sure that is the goal HTC is striving for.

Right now, we have a enough of a base to keep one arena pretty busy... but not packed.  We don't have the player base to keep multiple arenas stocked with ideal numbers.  Every arena would suffer as a result.

So.. one price to play.  I understand the evaluation process that involved different offers.  What I would hope would come of that would be a lower uniform price for EVERYONE.  One price for every player for unlimmited play.

AKDejaVu

[Fariz]

Now I understand why communism lasted for the whole 70 years.

So what if someone do pay less than you? So what if some people even do not pay at all? The only question is if YOU want to pay $30 a month for playing AH. If you think it is high -- go to another sim. If the price is ok for you -- pay.

Fariz

[Fatty]

Cookie Wookie I say!