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Offline dtango

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« Reply #45 on: December 29, 2002, 05:24:54 PM »
You can't argue that head-on's should be removed from a historical or realism perspective.  

Take the action in the South Pacific for instance.  The US knew that (1) it's planes could take more of a beating than the Japanese aircraft and (2) the US had heavier armament vs. the Japanese aircraft.  This lead to the head-on to be used as one of the the tactics by US pilots.

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Good shots and aggressive American pilots from the beginning of the war looked for the opportunity to make a head-on attack....the US aircraft would use superior speed to gain distance and then simply turn around and head straight for the adversary.  The shot had to be made in less than two seconds.  In many circumstances the Japanese plane would break away and the US fighter sail past.  Sometimes the Japanese fighter would either accept the one-sided duel or simply do the wrong thing.  The result would be on of the most dramatic encounters in fighter combat.

The head-on attack was part of the American repertoire of basic combat techniques since being recommended by Chennault.  No doubt hundreds of fragile Japanese aircraft perished under the punishing fire of American guns.  Richard Bong was noted for favoring the technique.


Source: Fire in the Sky - The Air War in the South Pacific , Eric Beregerud

There's also a nice descriptive account from Charles Lindbergh of him using a the head-on attack in a P-38 when he spent several months in the South Pacific  on aircraft technical advisory issues.  In his account both planes were blazing away at each other head-on and he narrowly missed a head-on collision by a matter of feet while downing the Japanese aircraft.

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« Reply #46 on: December 29, 2002, 09:16:32 PM »
If you can't dodge a HO you are ACM retarded.
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« Reply #47 on: December 30, 2002, 12:30:06 AM »
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So you mean to tell me it doesnt take 2 people to HO on a merge? Wow........

But GP i bet you cant get those kind of shots every time someone comes under your nose can ya?

IMO only spray and pray shots, i bet you wouldnt HO if the zeke had his nose pointed in your face....


Obviously it was a tracking shot and not an ho. Unless the guy on the other end tries something other then a straight line I will hit him pretty easily wldthing. I dont think four out of sixteen shots qualifies as spray and pray but yes I would ho a zeke depending on the situation. If I cant get a good shot outside of 700 yards or so no I wont.

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« Reply #48 on: December 30, 2002, 12:42:47 AM »
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Unless the guy on the other end tries something other then a straight line I will hit him pretty easily wldthing.


So if i do one of my HO counters you will be able to kill me in my attempt to do so?

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« Reply #49 on: December 30, 2002, 01:00:58 AM »
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well is ramming and head ons the same thing?
I am really talking about people who kakakazi inti you head on!
A good old game of chicken is cool LOL.
I can not believe that the us navy would say yes by all means take your plane and run head on into the enemy and die in the process maybe the japs but not the us navy LOL.
Head on as in playing chicken yes .
But kamakazi death rams LOL no.


LMAO I have yet to be in a situation where I was kamakazied     ina headon intentionally. You think its easy to intentionally collide with another aircraft here? Try it sometime

You would see alot less HOs if real  lives were at stake. Want to learn how to avoide that collision? Well just take that force feedback stick and rewire it  to your chair so when you crash or collide with something you get a nice JOLT of electricity.
Hmmmm ......I may just have something there. :D
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« Reply #50 on: December 30, 2002, 01:33:42 AM »
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What makes differens in real life HO and Aces High HO is lag.

How To Avoid HO by Lephturn.

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« Reply #51 on: December 30, 2002, 01:34:55 AM »
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HT could really cut down oon the HO's in the game by killing both pilots involved and deducting 20 perk points !!


Whining on the BBS is first-step.  Modifying your tactics to prevent yourself from getting into a head-on collision situation is second.  It's actually quite easy to do, but since this is a game, most people tend to push things a wee bit close.

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« Reply #52 on: December 30, 2002, 05:24:31 AM »
No wldthing what I am saying is the a6m set a line and then held a straight course making it easy to hit him. He would have been better off trying to go ho. At least then he would have a shot.