Author Topic: Whine of the Week............... By Rude (no chit) (Read 4669 times)

Hortlund · « **Reply #75 on:** December 30, 2002, 07:05:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
The 13th is just a group of guys that understands this is a game.

...the rest of us don't understand that, we all think it's for real.

Toad, what if I were to dig up a post on this BB from someone in the 13th TAS that was rude and insulting, maybe it could even be considered trash talking. Would that mean that the one in your squad who posted that one would be kicked out of the squad? Is that really what you are saying there mr "we are never rude or insulting"?

Toad · « **Reply #76 on:** December 30, 2002, 07:10:13 PM »

Well, if there's folks out there that think 3 knots of top end error is a serious problem, they don't understand it's a game.

Hortland, show me a post like Hazed just made by a 13th that wasn't disciplined or tossed. And we have tossed guys that "didn't get it".

Hortlund · « **Reply #77 on:** December 30, 2002, 07:15:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
Hortland, show me a post like Hazed just made by a 13th that wasn't disciplined or tossed. And we have tossed guys that "didn't get it".

Quite a difference between that and

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Evaluate our behavior in the game. You won't hear trash talking, insults or profanity from this squad. You never will.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #78 on:** December 30, 2002, 07:19:57 PM »

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Originally posted by ygsmilo
Ah--- Rude the Merciless has struck again.

A GOOD WINE-

1999 Ken Wright Pinot Noir
Shea Vineyard-

Pulled one out of the cellar for dinner Sat. nite. Great color-medium ruby. Classic pinot nose-red fruits, touch of earth with a hint of lavender. Nice body-wine is fruit driven with good acid balance, the oak was nicely integrated. Finish-deep, intense slightly tannic but drinkable now.

Highly recommened by the official TAS wine snob.

Now yer talking!

hazed- · « **Reply #79 on:** December 30, 2002, 07:19:59 PM »

Id like to make a slight amendment to my statement that ALL 13th TAS are up each others you know what........

I just became aware that ygsmilo and yeager are in TAS and i have to say i havent ever read anything from them which seems to be aimed at annoying other players.
Theres probably others that arent guilty of it but i dont have a list of TAS members.

But it goes to show you that if you try to lump players into one category or handsomehunked name you tarnish those who arent guilty as well as the guilty.

Toad , just as you say you would expel anyone in your squad for using a bad word like 'ass' or 'arse' (which i doubt you would but hey it looks good if you say it doesnt it) personally if 13th TAS was my squad id get rid of rude for his annoying 'WOW' crap.
I think i thought it was funny the first time i saw it but now i consider it to be one of the posts that encourage animosity between players and generally lowers the tone of the whole BBs.

your attempt to make my post out as something truelly terrible is quite funny.I know you have a thicker skin than you are pretending to have but hey it might influence HTC eh? might make them think you are the injured party?
clever playground tactic .

now go tidy your room, mommy is calling

Toad · « **Reply #80 on:** December 30, 2002, 07:20:04 PM »

Not at all. There's two consecutive sentences:

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If one of us made a post like Hazed just did, we'd boot him. But it has NEVER come up. Think on that a while.

Evaluate our behavior in the game. You won't hear trash talking, insults or profanity from this squad. You never will.

We don't post on the BBS like Hazed just did and we don't trash talk, insult or use profanity when playing the game.

I stand by both statements.

Toad · « **Reply #81 on:** December 30, 2002, 07:23:55 PM »

The vituperative tone of your attack is the issue Hazed. It's pretty much the same tone you used in your other threads that HT apparently enjoys as much as I do.

Creamo · « **Reply #82 on:** December 30, 2002, 07:26:26 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
The 13th is just a group of guys that understands this is a game.

THAT'S the big difference, IMO.

Secondly, we're all very good friends... we didn't know each other at all before AH....and we became great friends through this GAME.

We all value this game very highly as a part of our friendship and as a form of personal recreation. I don't find it unusual at all that we mutually abhor people that would defame it.

If one of us made a post like Hazed just did, we'd boot him. But it has NEVER come up. Think on that a while.

Evaluate our behavior in the game. You won't hear trash talking, insults or profanity from this squad. You never will.

I'm glad I'm in the 13th. There are a very, very few other squads I admire on an equal basis.

You’ve been watching WAY to many episodes of the Andy Griffith Show.

And stop sending HiTech all those bribes. He’ll recognize Grun again before the topic dies. Droopy has already made his way in with a holiday fruit basket and 2 cents, heh.

Cobra · « **Reply #83 on:** December 30, 2002, 07:34:27 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
I care what people think hazed, thats why I'm trying hard to make this place better

This is the funniest/ironic thing ever written on this BBS....EVER!

Stop it Grun...you're keelin' me here!

That deserves this.....

hazed- · « **Reply #84 on:** December 30, 2002, 07:56:46 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
The vituperative tone of your attack is the issue Hazed.

I find your collective attacks on what grunhertz was saying just as abusive and offensive.I happen to agree with what he is saying.You seem to feel trying to humiliate someone on these boards(collectively) does not pertain to 'insulting' behaviour.

'WOW' is a perfect example of insulting behaviour as its aim is to humiliate the poster regardless of whether he may, or may not have a point. Most of what rude deems whines are nothing more than poorly worded, but often legitimate frustrations.

so whos causing the most animosity on these boards? I think its you guys myself.

Toad · « **Reply #85 on:** December 30, 2002, 08:00:43 PM »

Right, Hazed.

Who was mentioned as close to getting kicked off the board?

You see that as a "positive" comment with respect to your contributions, I guess.

Yeager · « **Reply #86 on:** December 30, 2002, 08:03:08 PM »

I am ignorant. I didnt really think people were upset over this WOTW stuff.

I really want to be loved by everyone so please accept my apologies.

Shane I love you. I dont know why but I do.

GRUNZ, your a helluva LW player, please stay awesome.

Woton, Ive always thoght of you as someone with above average intelligence (as far as the game goes), dont change.

Hazed, your the best. I love you.

To any others I may have missed: The LW rides are awesome and very difficult to master. This I know because Ive tried them all. When I get smacked down by a 190 or a 109 I just brim with respect because I know how hard it is to do well enough to flame me. There will never be enough Galland or Hartman admirers to satisfy me. You guys are superb and a key component of the game. Stay golden.

To Hitech. I hate brownosers or asskissers but when Im in the mood, and believe me Im in the mood, I never hesitate to give accolades when and wherever they are due. Fella, you are awesome. The rest of your group has all my admiration and love and respect and support.

Lastly. to my brothers in the finest organization in AH, 13th TAS.

You guys have saved me in so many ways so many times that I will always remember you. I love you all. I remember the first time Rude and I flew together. Love ever since. Milo, Toad, sax, Beemer, Wildthing, Oz, All of ya. You make the game so much more than just a silly pastime. You make it immensely enjoyable beyond mere words.

Thank you.

Toad · « **Reply #87 on:** December 30, 2002, 08:03:46 PM »

Beyond that, no TAS made any direct attacks on Grun.

Disagree with his statements? Yes.

Attack him personally like you did all of us? No. No way.

In fact, in my own case I feel I have gone out of my way to be polite to him dispite his vehemence.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #88 on:** December 30, 2002, 08:06:44 PM »

What a beutiful post Cobra! Thank you!

Not only is it hearfeat and poigniant but also well worded, concise and incredibly uselful.

What exactly do you think that insult ( I guess) will accomplish?

My best to you Cobra!

Gman · « **Reply #89 on:** December 30, 2002, 08:07:27 PM »

Please Hazed.

Go read the Shooting thread on page 2.

Read my first posts, in no way did I "attack" onepunch at all, I was just giving info from personal experience. Here is the "nice logical and picked on Grunherz's first reply"

Gman:

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Well, I'm no expert in ballistics/energy in regards to WW2 weapons, but I do resemble one for rifle calibers.

Let's take a garden variety .300 win mag round. At 1000 meters, it still has well over 870 foot pounds of energy. That is a hell of a lot more than even a .44 magnum has at point blank range.

Now, take the .50 cal 750 grain Amax round that I shoot. It has nearly triple the energy of a .300 win mag at 1000 meters. Make no mistake, kiling APC's at this range is usually a one or two shot deal so long as shot placement is correct. And that is what this argument bakes down to IMO - shot placement.

In air to air combat, even while in level flight, there are SO many more variables when it comes to hitting the targets, I'm sure this isn't anything everyone here doesn't already know and accept.

However unlikely hitting another fighter at 1000 meters may or may not be, be certain that if a .50, much less a 20 mm explosive round hits said fighter, it will still have more than enough energy to do catostrophic damage, so long as it strikes the right place (fluke).

So, the original posts statement that killing a fighter in AH at long range is unrealistic because of the distance/power issue isn't very accurate, that said, I've never tried shooting from my 172, but I imagine it would be like anything else: difficult at first, much easier with experience when it comes to actually striking long range targets.

We have a Hispano 20mm in our shop, it came out of a Hurricane 2c at the local air museum. I should round up some 20mm ammo and take it to the range and shoot some tracer at an old car at 1200 meters or so. Video tape of that would prove the case one way or the other, at least in regards to inflictable damage at that range.

Grunherz's response:

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You guys arent seriously trying to justify AH long range shooting by saying its possible to do so with a gun fixed on a solid shooting bench and firing at a fixed target on the ground. Lets curtail the fanaticism here, ok?

As for IL2 I do think it's "too hard" certainly much harder than AH, but can any of you prove it's not realitic, or is it jush how you "feel". Lets see some data otherwise you are just whiners.

And Toad remember what I said about all those AH cheerleaders whining about IL2... Pretty good so far..

Cmon I see some of you are AH whine police squeakes, how bout you all produce some numbers, or are you all just going on feel or comparing it to another sim...

Otherwise shut up and play, or go away you little whining squeakes...

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Who wouldn't go on the attack after that. Especially considering I didn't in any way attack Onepunch, who is a nice guy whenever I've seen him in the game.

He then calls ME a "fanatic" later on. Hah, Grun, count posts pal, I think you have more posts in this and the other thread regarding this LW whine stuff then I do all together.