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Offline Kieran

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« Reply #105 on: December 30, 2002, 09:37:13 PM »
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But do relize how bad the luftwiner post are?

HiTech


Damn, that's gonna leave a mark! :eek:

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« Reply #106 on: December 30, 2002, 10:42:05 PM »
I myself have nothing against the 13tas. I dont really have anything against Rude. Toad happens to be one of my favorite guys on these boards. I have no problem with him toasting people for being dits. Even if its me.
Rude however.
The guy is polite. But to what end. To single people out for recognition and abuse that he wont inflict. Thats not polite.
Ya saks post was ludicrous.  I cant imagine what some of the private emails to HTC are like.
But if you want to take them to task for it. Do it. Dont think you can throw the yellow feather at them and the comunity will do your dirty work for ya.

So ya Rude. I meant it.The anology to flying a pony was just silly. But I think your a chicken toejam bully. It doesnt matter that I agree with your choices, I dont agree with your methods.
You probably think your a real nice guy. Doing everyone a favour.
Your just promoting your self at others expense.

What are we going to have..
Flame of the month
Chear leader of the month


Luftwhiners...
They should have to read the entire board befor they can post.
Look how many German Planes are in this game. Look at the tanks and anti aircraft choices. Look what is the best plane in the game..And the best tank.
Just cause Ospreys FW190 aces of the western front says that a 152 beat a Tempest doenst make it so.
Only the LW in this game gets a plane that was in effect an operational prototype.  If the allied contemporaries of the 152 where in here  we would never hear the end of it.

One of us has to write a one pager on how much German representation there is in this game and how time after time perfomance complaints about German planes have been debunked or at least put in doubt. Way to much energy is spent on that crap.
Sure enough. The Il2 boards are allready dealing with exactly the same issue. And no its not pony fans(yet) its FW fans. Supprise.
The get exaclty the same response there. Or worse.

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« Reply #107 on: December 30, 2002, 11:06:09 PM »
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Originally posted by hazed-
Hitech i must appologise for the bad language(ive edited it) I used but I utterly stand by what Im trying to say.

These guys behave like a gang of bullies. They use systematic  methods of closing down threads.

first one says something abusive then 2 or 3 others jump in and agree.
If they cant find a way of proving someone is wrong they switch to name calling and generally being 'loud' in a thread, ie loads of replies.

These guys often say things ten times worse than what i just wrote. For one thing I am far more insulted by someone claiming im a nazi than someone saying im an 'a___ lick'.


That hurt Hazed... Ill catch ya in the MA!

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« Reply #108 on: December 31, 2002, 12:38:39 AM »
We've been blessed.... two hilarious threads in the past two days.

What a way to end a great BBS year with a bang!

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« Reply #109 on: December 31, 2002, 12:46:24 AM »
Well Pongo....at least ya call it like ya see it.

I make no apologies to you or anyone else for WOW....if ya don't like it, then it's probably best to get over it.

I've voiced my opinion before just like the reply which Grun showcased in this thread....seems some of you don't like the taste of that delivery either. Make up your mind.

As to your personal insult to me Pongo....you don't even know me yet you feel impowered behind your keyboard and in front of your pals to the point of insulting me personally.

If your waiting for me to treat others in the same manner, you'll have a long wait. I've never stood in judgement over anyone in this GAME to the point of personal attacks....whinin is one thing...gettin personal is another in my book.

Chances are Pongo....if we ever met, we most likely would get along. As a matter of fact, private me your phone number or call me at 913-208-3807 and you can call me names over the phone....I could at least respect that.

As to future WOW threads....they'll come as I feel inclined to post them or until HT says enough of that.

What's funny about this crap is that I'm just as passionate about this silly sim as many of you...the difference is I realize that complaining until I'm blue in the face won't change a thing....patience works for me. Some of you seem to me to be so bent out of shape about a GAME that I personally can't relate....as a matter of fact, my life is so full of REAL issues which REALLY matter, that the last thing I'm going to do is show my tail end on this board. Just my take...you don't have to like it.
« Last Edit: December 31, 2002, 12:53:55 AM by Rude »

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« Reply #110 on: December 31, 2002, 12:51:40 AM »
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Originally posted by hazed-
Hitech i must appologise for the bad language(ive edited it) I used but I utterly stand by what Im trying to say.

These guys behave like a gang of bullies. They use systematic  methods of closing down threads.

first one says something abusive then 2 or 3 others jump in and agree.
If they cant find a way of proving someone is wrong they switch to name calling and generally being 'loud' in a thread, ie loads of replies.

These guys often say things ten times worse than what i just wrote. For one thing I am far more insulted by someone claiming im a nazi than someone saying im an 'a___ lick'.


Point us to an example of this strategy Hazed....just when did we do this or are ya just whinin again....sheesh...bullies??? You have got to be kidding....are you so sensitive as to believe for a moment that any of us, especially me, would give you more than a fleeting thought, much less devise some sinister plot to abuse little ol you on this board?

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« Reply #111 on: December 31, 2002, 12:56:06 AM »
Rude wrote:

"if ya don't like it, then it's probably best to get over it."

WOW!  (pun intended loosely)

« Last Edit: December 31, 2002, 12:58:23 AM by GRUNHERZ »

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« Reply #112 on: December 31, 2002, 01:03:32 AM »
I know you personally Rude... can I call you a chickenshit ?  :D.  

Guys, I'm going to say this once.  Well, I might say it again (if I get a double post).  I'd consider myself a 'reformed' Luftwhiner.  I used to think the LW planes were modelled like crap, the collective Allied rides were all 'easy-mode', there was a persistant and pervasive bias against 'LW' pilots on the BBS, etc.  You know why I thought that?  Because I sucked.  The problem was with me, personally.  Now I'm a decent stick, and surprise surprise, I don't have any problems in the LW planes.  In fact, I'm far more successful in them than I am in anything else.  The thing with the 'bias' I'd really have to put down to 2 things.

 First, insecurity.  I had some need to prove myself as a '1337' pilot, and I used to get real upset if someone denigrated my 'skill' as a 'virtual pilot'.  I'm done with that now, I've proved all I can prove.  I don't feel that I've got anything else to prove to anyone.  If 'Joe Newb' or whoever wants to sling mud at me, let em.  I don't care either way.

Second, a real lack of understanding.  I went to the Convention this past year because I really wanted to meet some people.  Some I wanted to meet because I thought they were pretty cool, some I wanted to meet just because I didn't believe that it was possible for them to be as big a jerk as I had made them out to be.  

I met Rude at the Con.  I've talked to him on the phone a few times since the Con- he is a real stand up guy in my opinion.  One of the best.  I met Ammo at the Con- again, one of the best people you'll ever meet.  Both of those guys won't hesitate to call Bull---- on the BBS if they smell something fishy.  It used to really annoy me, now that I've met em in real life I kind of respect that.

I think the whole "Luftwhiner" thing is really some sort of persecution complex on the part of the aggreved.  Granted, there are guys on the BBS who throw the word around a lot, but you know why they throw the word around?  Just to see your reaction.  

And yes, I can understand why Hitech would take offense at some of the "Luftwhine" posts.  Just look at the TONE of the posts, not necesarily the words.  And yes, Grunherz has a point when he says that other groups that use the same "tone" are not collectively marked with a deragatory label... but believe me when I say they are marked.

Also.. on the WotW thing... I really think people take it a tad to seriously.  I've 'won' that award a couple times (I think), and I took it as it was meant- which in my opinion is lightly.  I took it as Rude saying to me "Ya know son, you took it just a liiiiiiiittttlleee to far that last time, why dotcha tone it down some?"

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« Reply #113 on: December 31, 2002, 01:04:00 AM »
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913-208-xxxx


Rude, you may want to reconsider posting your phone number... it is the Internet and all. Not everyone reading the boards are is as sane as those who post here :)

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« Last Edit: December 31, 2002, 01:08:13 AM by Charon »

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« Reply #114 on: December 31, 2002, 01:23:24 AM »
Well Urchin I dont think there is anything Rude could tell me over the phone that will make the WOW posts anthying but cold calucalated insulting and huminiation crusades.

I dont know the guy, and maybe hes really nice and helps orphans and old ladies but as far as the WOW is concrned hes an awful person to make fun of people like that- and that is the only purpose of WOW.

AFAIK I was never the winner of that insult so I have no grudge against it or him personally, I dont think I even do FM whines for a long time.

Howver I know that behavior, I have both been the subject and later perpitrator of such systematic bullying and just because your friend or you do it and you are really cool guys to each other doesnt make it right to do it to somebody else.

So it doesnt matter if he is nice, his mean spirited ridiculing in WOW is the problem. And its obvious he doesnt care unless hitech slaps him right across the mouth - and thats the problem.

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« Reply #115 on: December 31, 2002, 01:42:51 AM »
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Originally posted by Pongo
Luftwhiners...
They should have to read the entire board befor they can post.
Look how many German Planes are in this game. Look at the tanks and anti aircraft choices. Look what is the best plane in the game..And the best tank.
Just cause Ospreys FW190 aces of the western front says that a 152 beat a Tempest doenst make it so.
Only the LW in this game gets a plane that was in effect an operational prototype.  If the allied contemporaries of the 152 where in here  we would never hear the end of it.

One of us has to write a one pager on how much German representation there is in this game and how time after time perfomance complaints about German planes have been debunked or at least put in doubt. Way to much energy is spent on that crap.
Sure enough. The Il2 boards are allready dealing with exactly the same issue. And no its not pony fans(yet) its FW fans. Supprise.
The get exaclty the same response there. Or worse.


You summed that up nicely bud.

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« Reply #116 on: December 31, 2002, 02:02:28 AM »
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Well Urchin I dont think there is anything Rude could tell me over the phone that will make the WOW posts anthying but cold calucalated insulting and huminiation crusades.

I dont know the guy, and maybe hes really nice and helps orphans and old ladies but as far as the WOW is concrned hes an awful person to make fun of people like that- and that is the only purpose of WOW.

AFAIK I was never the winner of that insult so I have no grudge against it or him personally, I dont think I even do FM whines for a long time.

Howver I know that behavior, I have both been the subject and later perpitrator of such systematic bullying and just because your friend or you do it and you are really cool guys to each other doesnt make it right to do it to somebody else.

So it doesnt matter if he is nice, his mean spirited ridiculing in WOW is the problem. And its obvious he doesnt care unless hitech slaps him right across the mouth - and thats the problem.


Grun....

You seemed to have a closed mind to the truth and are more interested in your perception of it than what it really is.

Like I said before....WOW only showcases what I felt was the most blatant whine for that week...anything more than that is your own creation.

This is my final word regarding this topic....Wotan, Pongo, Grun and Hazed....if calling me names and making false accusations about me and others in my squad is the worst thing you ever do in your lives, you all will be just fine I'm sure:)

Thanks Urch:)

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« Reply #117 on: December 31, 2002, 02:07:52 AM »
So in truth WOW is really nice?  Such deliberate making fun of people is just misnunderstood good natured joking... Or I am I supposed to perecive that as not an attack but just an informational service.

And again if you are so inclined to write things like  "if ya don't like it, then it's probably best to get over it" maybe you should follow your own advice.

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« Reply #118 on: December 31, 2002, 02:14:10 AM »
I'll have to look back over the past WotW Grun, but I don't recall Rude ever editorializing them.  Well, somethings a little wrong with the search function, so the only thing that comes up are the two 'whine of the week'.  

However, the only thing Rude added to Sachs post was "And the Whiner is ....."

He didn't add a damn thing to it, he let AGs 'whine' stand on its own merits.  If I recall correctly that is all he has ever done.  He hasn't bullied or denigrated a single person in my opinion.

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« Reply #119 on: December 31, 2002, 05:15:56 AM »
Hazed wrote:

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For one thing I am far more insulted by someone claiming im a nazi...


When was the last time someone made that accusation Hazed? Because you bring up this very question time and time again.
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