Well rude my position is that most people here whine a lot, and that pretty much the only group singled out categorically for whining and attacked syatematically for it regardless if its a genuine whine are the "luftwhiners". Just go look at lazs current GV thread, sure some people disagree with him but none of it reaches the vitriol spewed out if for example a LW guy complained that GV 50cals are overdone or why arent his acts condeming every USN type in AH as a whiner.
And Toad I find it funny how you think what were saying are "baseless accusations" how exactly do you know what somebodys experience here is when they are being made fun of and harrased like this- especially when you and your friends are often the attackers?
Its also interesting that the playground analogy comes up again...