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« Reply #75 on: January 05, 2003, 05:15:38 PM »
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http://www.indiana.edu/~libgpd/historical/acchs2.pdf
 Adobe page 84 mentions the use of gas shell be the 78th
division.
http://www.indiana.edu/~libgpd/historical/acchs4.pdf
 Adobe page 90 stating the French fired more gas shells than the 26th division thus drawing more retaliatory strikes.



Great links! thanks.

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« Reply #76 on: January 05, 2003, 05:42:25 PM »
Yeah Ping, thanks for the research.

Of course I did know that the US has used WMD, hard to forget Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Very much hoping we never use them again.
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« Reply #77 on: January 06, 2003, 12:12:40 AM »
oddly enough, the meaning of WMD has been seriously twisted in the last few years...the original term had nothing to do w/ anthrax or mustard gas... the M ('Mass') in WMD meant mass as in atoms or atomic particles (nuclei), aka A-bombs & H-bombs... nothing to do w/ chem&bio weapons which had a seperate treaty (geneva) devoted to them. so now it convenient to change the semantics, since the atomic/nuclear threat from iraq is laughable and presto, 'mass' now means 'lotsa'...so is a tallboy or a B-52 a WMD?

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« Reply #78 on: January 06, 2003, 07:49:53 AM »
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oddly enough, the meaning of WMD has been seriously twisted in the last few years...


Out of curiosity, when did this change take place?


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« Reply #79 on: January 06, 2003, 10:34:49 AM »
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Out of curiosity, when did this change take place?


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Just did some looking:

When I read your post I was thinking about the 1971 Seabed treaty which prohibited Weapons of Mass Destruction from being placed on the ocean floor. So I went ahead and looked at that treaty, to better understand your point. What I noticed was curious to say the least.

The treaty specifically bans "nuclear weapons and other weapons of mass destruction" but declines to specifically name what other "Weapons of Mass Destruction" might be.

But there is no such ambiguity when it comes to the 1975 Biological Weapons protocol, which contains a preambulatory clause stating:
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 Convinced of the importance and urgency of eliminating from the arsenals of States, through effective measures, such dangerous weapons of mass destruction as those using chemical or bacteriological (biological) agents,


So it is quite possible that the lumping of Chem/Bio with Nuclear occured in the 1970s as the United Nations attempted to expand on the Geneva protocols of 1925 which, if I recall, banned only the Use of these weapons, but not he possession of them.

I'm still interested in the "mass=atomic particles" part of your statement, as I have never heard this before.

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« Reply #80 on: January 06, 2003, 12:39:15 PM »
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Any act of critical intelligence, any reasoned effort to see through the mask of power, enrages typical Bush supporters.


When/IF we hear anything intelligent from you then you can make this statement.

Not going to hold my breath waiting for it!
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« Reply #81 on: January 06, 2003, 12:48:29 PM »
This is kettle.

I was saving this quote for a toejambird like john9001...but obviously your of the same ilk.

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"Patriotism means to stand by the country,
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BTW, did gypsys swap you out at birth for one of their kids?

Only reason I ask is how can your brother be as intelligent as he is and you be such a handsomehunk?

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« Reply #82 on: January 06, 2003, 03:39:48 PM »
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I'm still interested in the "mass=atomic particles" part of your statement, as I have never heard this before.


Just sayin :)

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« Reply #83 on: January 06, 2003, 03:49:32 PM »
Dam Weazel!

You got something against gypsies?





















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« Reply #84 on: January 06, 2003, 03:56:12 PM »
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You got something against gypsies?


How can you be so insensitive? They prefer to be called Roma... of course I'd prefer to get my wallet back and thats not going to happen either.

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« Reply #85 on: January 06, 2003, 04:22:29 PM »
Weazel, that aluminum-lined helmet is on too tight..... :)

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Oh crap I ruined your helmet!
« Reply #86 on: January 06, 2003, 05:29:51 PM »
I thought it was a crock-pot and it's full of chili.

That's almost as funny as your comment. :rolleyes:

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Weazel, that aluminum-lined helmet is on too tight..... :)

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