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Offline Drunky

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« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2003, 12:41:59 PM »
I send myself hundreds of lewd emails (sometimes with diagrams) every day....as of yet, my company has refused to do anything about it
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« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2003, 12:42:31 PM »
it SHOULD be public property.. it's paid for by the public

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« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2003, 01:12:02 PM »
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it also illustrates a point:  Work email is public property...


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« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2003, 01:17:25 PM »
hmm...if you want to do that toejam do it at home (or in a liscenced brothel)

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« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2003, 01:26:52 PM »
It's not public property, I believe it's the property and responsibility of the company that it came from.

 With ownership comes liability, when you are at work you represent that company or firm to the public. Even if the contents of your email is private, you are using your company email address owned by the company representing the company to send it ON company time.

Now if someone gets harrassing email from someone's company email address, I'm certain not only the person doing it but the company it came from can be found liable.

That's why it's not private, Liability and Ownership.

This is far from being "public" though.

Otherwise all interoffice memo's would be availible to the public for viewing and there would be some serious security issues discussing anything via email.

But, I have to wonder if this was done on the basis that he's an 'elected official' I'd like to any of George Bush's email that was written to his family on our time...gonna happen? I doubt it.

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it also illustrates a point:  Work email is public property...
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« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2003, 01:30:52 PM »
Kanth - He works for a government agency.  All of the property of that government agency, including the emails, IS public property.  That's why the media was allowed access to it.


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« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2003, 01:32:45 PM »
I work for the government.
Work email is public property in the sense that the public IS allowed access to it under certain circumstances.

case in point, when the public wanted to know what our commisioners were doing they were allowed to view their emails.
obviously a grey area but working for the gov't means your working on public time, money, etc

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« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2003, 01:35:01 PM »
In Florida its called "Sunshine Laws".

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« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2003, 02:00:09 PM »
so...what's the point of having a password on your email account?

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« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2003, 02:18:35 PM »
Where does sexual harassment of Whitley come in? The article never mentioned how she got involved.

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« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2003, 02:28:54 PM »
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Where does sexual harassment of Whitley come in? The article never mentioned how she got involved.

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My guess is she was trying to prove 'hostile environment' sexual harassment.

Many governemtn agencies and large companies these days will force you to sign a 'non-confidentiality' agreement for company e-mail as a condition of continued employment.

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« Reply #26 on: January 09, 2003, 02:45:09 PM »
Montezuma: My guess is she was trying to prove 'hostile environment' sexual harassment.

 It's hard to see how proving a man being romantic towards his steady girlfriend may substantiate accusations of him doing uninvited/unwelcomed sexual mover towards anyone else.
 Of course if she says he harassed her and he claimes to be impotent or homosexual or never cheating on his wife, that would be good evidence.

 This guy clearly got carried away - what, did he think his IT department would keep information confidential like Secret Service did?

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« Reply #27 on: January 09, 2003, 03:20:28 PM »
I had a situation like this in the previous company I worked at. We had an employee (female) who was 'liaising' with a vendor rep/guy that visited us (she also had a boyfriend at the time).

Anyway, I became 'aware' of certain emails by means that I cannot reveal. And after a while these two got caught snogging in the back of our warehouse - and rumours raged.

So, one day our manager decides he wants to see one of these emails. So, as this employee went to launch he raced to her PC before the screensaver (with password) kicked in, found an offending email and printed it, then raced back to the printer.

And waited...

And waited...

And waited...

I looked over at him and said "you didn't print to the default printer did you?". His face dropped. You see, our default printer was in our main branch 1000km's away, in the warehouse, so we could print new orders directly to the warehouse crew.

So said manager dashes to the phone rings up the other warehouse, says "theres a very private confidential email printing out, whatever you do don't read it tear it up immediately".

I'm standing there pissing my pants saying "ohhh they're gonna read it for sure now".

Anyway, this email put Penthouse Forum to shame, and of course the crappy dot matrix printout did the company rounds :D

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« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2003, 03:59:59 PM »
I think the 'she' in this case was a willing participant....
at least that's the local rumor

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« Reply #29 on: January 09, 2003, 05:16:10 PM »
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because you don't OWN the machine, service, network, etc at work.
You're using theirs.


So if he woud do it old fashion way by using pen, paper and envelope taken from his office the company could still rip those letters open and see whats inside?
Guess they can also listen their employers phonecalls too.

Here you get sentenced if you do that, guess people have more rights for their privacy here  :)