Author Topic: A Little IRaqi History (Read 665 times)

Ping · « **on:** January 16, 2003, 01:28:24 PM »

1951 - Mossadigh takes power in Iran and declares that they will control their own oil

1953 -After 2 years of U.S. sponsored sanctions CIA supports plot to overthrow Mossadigh and place Shah in power. American Gen. Norman Schwartzkopf Sr. helps Shah develop SAVAK secret police.

1958 - popular revolution led by Abd al-Kassem Quassim overthrows British-installed king of Iraq

1959-Saddam Hussein was one of assassins who wounded Quassim

1963 -coup aided by CIA overthrows Kassem. Baathist party briefly in power. Hussein runs torture center

1968 - Baathist Party comes to power for good in Iraq

1972-Iraq announces the nationalization of oil. Pres. Nixon plots with Shah to arm Iraqui Kurds. Iraq placed on list of nations supporting terrorism

1975-Iraq Vice-president Saddam Hussein and Shah reach agreement ceding control of Shatt-al-Arab waterway to Iran. Kurdish aid abruptly stopped. Concerning the Kurds who were left in the lurch, Henry Kissinger said , " Covert operations should not be confused with missionary work".

1979-Shah is overthrown. National Security adviser Brzezinski publicly encouraged Iraq to attack Iran to take back the Shatt-al-Arab waterway - which the U.S had forced Iraq to cede to Iran four years earlier.

1980-"Carter Doctrine" states U.S. will intervene militarily to protect U.S. access to oil. Iraq invades Iran at U.S. urging.

1982-Iraq removed from terrorist nation list

Taken From http://www.scn.org/wwfor/iraqhist.html

And Its not about oil?

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #1 on:** January 16, 2003, 01:29:55 PM »

And you stopped at 1982 because? After that it no longer supports your oil conspiracy?
-SW

Ping · « **Reply #2 on:** January 16, 2003, 01:30:24 PM »

1984-U.S restores full diplomatic relations with Iraq. Pres. Reagan authorizes intelligence sharing with Iraq. At same time U.S. begins sharing intelligence and selling weapons to Iran.

1985-Oliver North tells Iran that U.S. will help Iran overthrow Saddam Hussein

1986-U.S increases aid to Iraq

1987-Norman Schwartzkopf Jr. Named head of CENT-COM. U.S bombs Iranian oil platforms.

Ping · « **Reply #3 on:** January 16, 2003, 01:30:57 PM »

No..stopped cause it just got worse is all

MWHUN · « **Reply #4 on:** January 16, 2003, 01:36:39 PM »

There was a little thing called the Cold War and US and Soviet interest forced everyone to maneuver for position in the Middle East as "tides" turned...

They should be glad they have oil and people pay attention otherwise the Middle East's importance would be just above sub-Sahara Africa.

Ping · « **Reply #5 on:** January 16, 2003, 01:38:48 PM »

Ok..I guess Lies Deceit and State sanctioned terrorism is ok

1972-Iraq announces the nationalization of oil. Pres. Nixon plots with Shah to arm Iraqui Kurds. Iraq placed on list of nations supporting terrorism

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #6 on:** January 16, 2003, 01:39:57 PM »

That's all fine 'n dandy, but are you going to ignore that Saddam actively pursued weapons grade plutonium? Bought himself a calutron (which makes nuclear material for a bomb) which was later found by UN inspectors? Oh, not to mention he moved it just as UN inspectors came to the site and they watched the vehicles drive away helplessly. He created thousands of tons of Anthrax, VX, the virus that causes botchilism, and several other chemical/biological weapons I can't remember off the top of my head- had them packed into warheads, had them primed and ready to be attached SAMs on mobile SAM launchers aimed at Israel, and when told by the UN to destroy it.... only half was actually destroyed?

He used a biological agent on the Kurds which killed thousands and the surviving population is forever mutilated at the DNA level resulting in some pretty messed up looking people from birth.

"It's all about oil"

No, it's all about getting a crazy lying fuk out of power in Iraq.

Oh yeah, and not to mention all of the toejam we found after the Gulf War...
-SW

Ping · « **Reply #7 on:** January 16, 2003, 01:43:20 PM »

Cmon AKS

I just gave you everything you asked for and now you discard it like some dirty Tard Thong

Have to admit the facts don't really look good on the US governments ability to take the High Moral Ground.

Yes they used gas on the Kurds...look into the history on the Kurds and you may find that the Iranians and the US in the past treated them just as bad. The Kurds have been fighting the Iraqis for a lot longer than Saddam has been alive.
Does the situation stink? Hell Yes. But I for one will point out that this war is about alot more than meets the Eye

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #8 on:** January 16, 2003, 01:44:58 PM »

Sorry, you gave me up until 1987... if I'm not mistaken, it's now 2003...

Iraqi history just didn't stop happening for 16 years.
-SW

Ping · « **Reply #9 on:** January 16, 2003, 01:47:45 PM »

AKS..are you incapable of research? I said last time I would let you do it for yourself, I should have held true to that. Do your own research now.

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #10 on:** January 16, 2003, 01:50:38 PM »

That's a nice cop out... I wasn't asking you to show me the history, I wanted to see if you would pull all the facts... which I highly suspect you wouldn't, which is why you insist I do my own "research".

You started the argument, but you couldn't take it to the end... oh well, guess you'll never truly understand just how much of a threat Saddam is to the people in that region.
-SW

Ping · « **Reply #11 on:** January 16, 2003, 01:53:23 PM »

Ping takes AKS by the hand and gently shows him to the Library stairs, " Dont be afraid AKS...You can do it"

There is such a thing as "Casting Pearls before Swine"

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #12 on:** January 16, 2003, 01:57:30 PM »

Yeah, I figured you'd do that.

Have you been reading the newspapers for the past 9 years? Just outta curiosity, did you miss that Iraq continued to throw UN inspectors out, threaten them with death threats and give them the run around?

If you didn't miss that, did you miss the amounts of weapons they found there that had been destroyed? Did you miss the amounts of weapons they had in reality been manufactured?

Did you fail to subtract the amount destroyed from the amount manufactured?

I know you can do it!
-SW

Ping · « **Reply #13 on:** January 16, 2003, 01:59:51 PM »

Are you forgeting the toejam the previous administrations had been handing them for the previous CENTURY? I seem to recall the War of Independance started over less than what they had been subjected to.

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #14 on:** January 16, 2003, 02:02:53 PM »

No I am not, I am also not forgetting that he was mandated by the UN to destroy ALL the toejam he had. Period. He has not proven himself to have done it.

He is in violation of a UN treaty, after several years of giving the UN the run around, moving stuff around and finally letting them in a mere 9 years later... you don't for a minute believe he has all kinds of bio/chem and maybe even nuclear stuff hidden around his desert?

If you can't see that for what it is, then yeah... I guess it is all about oil.. atleast to people who only want to see their side of the issue.
-SW