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« on: January 16, 2003, 05:25:21 PM »
I-16-24: Neat little early war Russian fighter with a usable armament

Ki.84-I-Ko Hayate "Frank": Very good mass produced late war Japanese fighter

M4A3 Sherman (75mm): Better AA than Panzer IV H, comparable armor and speed but worse main gun

Me410B-2 Hornisse: Neat late war Luftwaffe fighter/bomber

Mosquito B.Mk XVI: Late war Mosquito-Bomber, cookie carrier

P-38F/G Lightning: Earlier P-38 version so that the P-38 can be used in scenarios when it was most important

Sd.Kfz.234/2 Puma: Good Wehrmacht armored car, better gun and armor than M-8, but slower and no AA

T-34/85: Better speed, armor and gun than the Panzer IV H, but less ammo and no AA
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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2003, 05:40:31 PM »
Ki84 - For MA

G4M - for scenarios

Pe2 - for both

P38F/G - agree totally!

Aftrer these additions Im not that bothered ;)


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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2003, 05:58:03 PM »
Tu-2
G4M
Pe-2
Ki-84
Ki-100
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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2003, 06:33:52 PM »
I think,and I hope I am totaly wrong hear, that any plane with a perescope sight, or a complex defensive sighting system might be out of the question, at present. So No pe-2, Tu-2 or Me 410.

  Plane wish list pffffffffffft, I am beyond hoping. Whatever they do is just that.

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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2003, 06:36:32 PM »
brady,

The Me410's tail gun is no more complicated than the B-17G's chin turret.
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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2003, 06:59:36 PM »
Mine would be pretty close, just some personal preferences in mine:

Ki-84
P-38J
P-47M
T-34/85
M-18 Hellcat
JU-52
P-61

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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2003, 07:11:49 PM »
Not shure on that one Karnak, Their are 3 diefent Revi, sights mounted in the back runing two guns controled by just one triger. I heared that the 210 for Il-2 is coming without the rear gunner because they are having a real hard time figuring it all out.

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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2003, 07:25:53 PM »
Ki-43
Ki-44
P-39Q
I-16 type 17
Beaufighter
Ju-188
Tu-2

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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2003, 07:42:55 PM »
That is interesting brady.

Well, I wouldn't mind if they fudged it and simply setup the Me410's rear guns with a single gunsight as in the B-17G's chin turret position.  Bombsights are, after all, fudged to the point where all bombers have the same sight.
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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2003, 07:57:48 PM »
seems to me a PERFECT way to make a system that would very much resemble the me410 barbettes would be to copy the b17s.

think about this: when your rear gun is out of ammo in a B17 formation and you try to fire but only the top (or bottom) turret fires (as your gun is now empty) or the other aircraft in the formation fires from way over to the left or right at the spot youre aiming at. Well this would or could be how you make the barbettes work.

First you set them so they have the real limited field of fire the original barbettes had.Ie you make a sort of gun position but it cant be occupied by a player.You set them in the rear fuselage.

You then make the rear gunner position simply a sight that can be moved (and if you have to, put a gun in there but give it no ammo).

Slave the barbettes to this sight(gun) much the same as the b17s gun positions are slaved to whatever position you occupy in that bomber.

what you end up with is a rear gun that behaves I would imagine pretty similar to what you would expect to see.

the guns will fire from well below your sight but will hit/coverge on the area your sight covers.

isnt this really very simple?

I always wondered why this is such a hard thing to do when you can see a similar thing happening all the time already.its weird really.
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« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2003, 08:03:12 PM »
Seems like that would work just fine to me hazed-.
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« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2003, 11:09:26 PM »
May be because their is more than one sight, being controled by the same Stick(Handel/pistole grip)< I thought their were just two sights one on each side, but DB 603 said their were actualy 3 of them< I gues one for the center>.

 I thought they could have more than one gunposition for the same spot, like one for each side of the plane but that would a pain to use kinda, I wounder if they could occupy the same space?

           

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« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2003, 11:29:28 PM »
mine is Hawk 75 think of a P40 with a big radial...
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« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2003, 12:17:47 AM »
too many good planes not yet in AH to list them all (also many good variants of planes already here). i'm sure that eventually we'll see everything everyone wants

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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2003, 03:54:06 AM »
Ki-44 and Ki-84.
They were new type fighters of Japanese Army.