Author Topic: Footfall  (Read 731 times)

Offline Hangtime

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« on: January 17, 2003, 11:49:30 PM »
Was going through a pile of old book boxes from the ex-wifes attic.. got the summons 'come get your stuff or it's goin out on the curb..'

Ran into this old gem.. original hardcover, 1985 copyright. 'Footfall' by Lary Niven and Jerry Pournelle. Awsome read back then, couldn't wait to give it another go... and man, what a thrill it was to read it again.

Scenario: Ailen Ship spotted inbound.. several months warning; world prepares to peacefully greet the visitors. Oddly.. the visitors don't answer our hails... and when they arrive in orbit the immediately sweep all sattelites and manned platforms outta the sky and procced to destroy every dam, road and rail junction. shipyard and harbor and for good measure any hostile communications center and military base that attempts to resist; worldwide. Before long theres aliens in Kansas, and the Jayhawk national guard and reserve mount an armored brigade recon in force....

Fascinating read. Best ailen invasion SF story I ever read.. 18 years ago and now. The ending is supurb, the plot fast, the characters nicely developed.. would make an outstanding movie reworked for todays technology. If you decide to read this, you need to remember this was written pre-Challenger, and couched in the cold war world of the late seventies.

I loved it. Highly reccomend it to you SF fans.. classic Niven and Pournelle.. as good as Mote in Gods Eye and The Gripping Hand.

Glad I went and got those boxes... found my old Heinlein collection too. ;)
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2003, 12:11:58 AM »
What the Hell does this have to do with football?? You lure us into this thread by stating "football" and then you talk about some gay book revue? Sheeesh, Hangtime. Waste my friggin time.:mad: :mad: :mad:

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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2003, 12:13:49 AM »
Sancho!! My Armor!!!!!
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2003, 06:24:48 AM »
I just ordered it from amazon.

If it sucks, Hangtime....you'll pay dearly.

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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2003, 06:30:21 AM »
Read "Mig Pilot"

A true story of Soviet pilot that flew his Mig-25 from Russia to Japan, escaping both Russian and Japanese defences to land his "top secret" Mig-25.

Great read. A lot of insight into USSR

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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2003, 06:51:16 AM »
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Sancho!! My Armor!!!!!


I must have missed the Don Quixote angle in this thread... :D

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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2003, 11:11:46 AM »
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I must have missed the Don Quixote angle in this thread...


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Let me know.. either way Wilfred. I'm bettin you'll love it.
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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2003, 12:00:11 PM »
I had it and cant remember if I finished it. Didnt the bad guys have elephant ears or something?

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« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2003, 09:02:04 PM »
I liked all except the ending.  Still way better than the movie Armageddon though

Try reading Lucifer's Hammer by same author

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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2003, 09:20:11 PM »
Yup Pongo, thats the one. I like Nivens ailens, they always have attitude problems. ;)

Makofan.. I've got everything Niven wrote... Lucifers Hammer was the definitive 'Dinosaur Killer' asteroid SF novel, just as Footfall is the definitive "ailen Invasion" novel. I liked 'Ringworld' too... and the Beowulf Shafer and 'Tales of Known Space' Series.. Nutron Star is an excellent collection of his short stories. The "Wing Commander" universe is his creation, I loved his Big Cat bad guys the "Kzinti".

Ah yess.... SF dweebdom; the good old days of my innocent youth. ;)
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« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2003, 01:42:50 PM »
Hang, what is your favourite Heinlein's book? My fav is "Time enough for love". I bet you read your copy of "Starship Troopers" till holes in every page ;)

Unfortunately I missed his 25-volume collection when it was published here in early-90s, a decent translation unlike typical crap when a book in English is 1/4 longer then Russian translation (should be opposite), with 75% of adjectives skipped.

My favourite "alien invasion" story is Eugene Lukin's "Invasion", when Soviet SAM unit shoots down alien spaceships that cross Soviet border on the possible enemy attack direction...

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Read "Mig Pilot"

A true story of Soviet pilot that flew his Mig-25 from Russia to Japan, escaping both Russian and Japanese defences to land his "top secret" Mig-25.

Great read. A lot of insight into USSR


Belenko always was a looser. Hijaking a MiG with "experimental" electronics that had to be replaced in a matter of weeks.

BTW, didn't that amazinhunk leave his family in the Union?

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« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2003, 02:37:47 PM »
Niven and Pournelle have written more great books. The Legacy of Herot, The Hammer, two virtual reality game total immersion books, Mote in a Gods Eye, The Off Hand, sequel to Legacy. They have written some great books...another series..4 book of a planned 7, been ten years waiting on number 5.. David Gerrold(written for star trek etc) wrote them. They have Titles like Day of Damnation ...etc....an alien bio-system is taking over the earth, the first wave killled about 99% of the population...called the Ch"Torr, worms are pretty bad there...just a fyi


There is another interesting series..done by Harry Turtledove, he writes about alternate realities..I like his WW2 is interrupted by 4 foot high lizards with the technology of 1990 there abouts. They have to mate if they do Ginger spice. Hitler gets the bomb along with a lof of others guys. Turtledove has done some about the Civil War being won by Confederates, etc.


The bad guys were elephants essentially

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« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2003, 02:42:57 PM »
Niven's fantastic.

Have you read "Protector"?

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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2003, 03:09:15 PM »
Heheheheh yah Boroda, I liked Starship Troopers; I especially liked those 'mobile suits', I loved the politics and Heinlen has a brash way of putting forth concepts and ideas that reach out and grab yah by the cortex. Better than Starship Troopers.. Joe Haldermans "The Forever War". Try it. It's written for YOU, Boroda.

My favorite Heinlen.. "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress". Best single Line in all of SF... the Loonies are plotting a Revolt from Earths domination with the help of a sentininet computer. The Committiee wonders what they can use for weapons and the computer replies..

"We can throw rocks."

"Stranger in a Strange Land"... another keeper. Possibly the most read SF book in history, and quite possibly contributed more sanity to the 60's than any other work in print at the time.

Heinlein could weave a world around you in just a few pages.. the "Cat Who Walks Through Walls" was superb, and as the father of SF "Future Histories" nothing can or ever will touch the compendium "The Past though Tomorrow" containing in their correct order:

Lifeline, The Roads Must Roll, Blowups Happen, The Man Who Sold The Moon (DD Harriman is my personal Hero. ;)), Deliliah and the Space Rigger, Space Jockey, Requim, The Black Pits of Luna, It's Great To Be Back, We also Walk Dogs, Searchlight, Ordeal in Space, The Green Hills of Earth (tearjerker), Logic of Empire (you'd love that one Boroda;)), The Menace from Earth, If This Goes On--, Coventry, Misfit, and Methuselah's Children.

Heinlen made two trips to the Soviet Union... his writings on his experiences there were the first honest view I had of the Soviet Mind.. revealing and informative. Very thought provoking.

Try to find "Pravda Means Truth".. though I doubt that one ever made into a Russian Translation. :)
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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2003, 03:10:53 PM »
LOL!! rgr that Seeker.. Yup... Phisstok the Pak... Hey, got any of that root on yah?

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