Islam sleeper discovert in US!!

[Hortlund]

Originally posted by Ping
Hortlund....Do you have         Issues?

Everyone have issues.

Did you have anything particular in mind?

[Ping]

Sure...just head over to the thread you started about the french and read it

[midnight Target]

Change "Kurds" to "Jews", "Iraq" to "Germany" and "Iran" to "USSR" and you have a textbook revisionist argument.

ROFL...

Yea revised from "Kurds" to "Jews", "Iraq" to "Germany" and "Iran" to "USSR"

hehee you are on a roll brother Steve!

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by Hortlund
33. Is it not true that since World War II Congress has not declared war and- not coincidentally- we have not since then had a clear-cut victory?

Oh, so 91 was not a clear cut victory?.

LOL!!!  If it was so clear cut, then why are we arguing about going to war with Saddam again??

[whgates3]

he ran for president as a libertarian in '96 i think

[john9001]

91 gulf war was to get saddam out of kuwait , the next one is to get saddam out of iraq.

the reason the gulf war ended so soon was the "coalition" (including canada) did not want to "upset" the arabs by sending US troops into bagdad.

[Ripsnort]

Some valid questions up there, not all, but some.  FYI:Some of you may find this hard to believe but not everyone that is "right of center" (when it comes to voting )is 100% for war.  Being right of center does not automatically make one a hawk.

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by whgates3
he ran for president as a libertarian in '96 i think

"In 1988, Dr. Paul re-entered politics when he successfully won the nomination of the Libertarian Party for the U.S. Presidency. He spent much of the year campaigning across the country, promoting the ideals of limited government, low taxes, and personal liberty.

Dr. Paul returned to Congress in 1996 after successfully winning a House seat representing the 14th Congressional district of Texas. He was re-elected in 1998. "

[Dowding]

Some valid questions, and he sounds like he has his head screwed on the right way around. And that's coming from a communist.

It's a shame the Bush administration would never answer them though. They prefer to use public addresses and press conferences to remind Saddam of the time of day or to practice the art of the diplomatic gaff. Which is a shame.

The case for invading Iraq is as weak as a fanny flap (and that's the British definition of fanny).

[Holden McGroin]

As this thread would be several hundred posts to answer all of Rep Paul's questions fully, and he makes some valid points where a reasonable man would admit that some of Paul's concerns are warranted, I thought I would answer just one where I think he may be off base.

#15
Combined from the Guardian and 10 Downing Street

Iraq has been involved in chemical and biological warfare research for over 30 years.  Its chemical warfare research started in 1971 at a small, well guarded site at Rashad to the Northeast of Baghdad.  Research was conducted there on a number of chemical agents including mustard gas, CS and tabun.  Later, in 1974 a dedicated organisation called Al-Hassan Ibn Al-Haitham was established. In the late 1970s plans were made to build a large research and commercial-scale production facility in the desert some 70km Northwest of Baghdad under the Project cover of No 922.  This was to become Muthanna State Establishment, also known as al-Muthanna, and operated under the front name of Iraq's State Establishment for Pesticide Production. It became operational in 1982-83.  It had five research and development sections each tasked to pursue different programmes.  In addition, the al-Muthanna site was the main chemical agent production facility, and it also took the lead in weaponising chemical and biological agents including all aspects of weapon development and testing, in association with the military. According to information, subsequently supplied by the Iraqis, the total production capacity in 1991 was 4,000 tonnes of agent per annum, but we assess it could have been higher.  Al-Muthanna was supported by three separate storage and precursor production facilities known as Fallujah 1, 2 and 3 near Habbaniyah, north-west of Baghdad, parts of which were not completed before they were heavily bombed in the 1991 Gulf War.

The Attack on Halabja

On Friday, 17th March 1988, the village of Halabja was bombarded by Iraqi warplanes. The raid was over in minutes. Saddam Hussein used chemical weapons against his own people. A Kurd described the effects of a chemical attack on another village:

"My brothers and my wife had blood and vomit running from their noses and their mouths. Their heads were tilted to one side. They were groaning. I couldn't do much, just clean up the blood and vomit from their mouths and try in every way to make them breathe again. I did artificial respiration on them and then I gave them two injections each. I also rubbed creams on my wife and two brothers."

(From "Crimes Against Humanity," Iraqi National Congress.

Among the corpses at Halabja, children were found dead where they had been playing outside their homes. In places, streets were piled with corpses.

[StSanta]

LOL good answer Hortlund