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Offline ~Caligula~

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« on: October 05, 2001, 03:21:00 AM »
this thing turns like a mofo,and travels at 500 mph...
well I think speed is right but turning and climb is way too good...
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« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2001, 03:26:00 AM »
show me the data!
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« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2001, 03:39:00 AM »
I have no idea whether or not it is turning to well, but I don't think that it is climbing too well.

Seems to climb just about right to me.
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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2001, 03:41:00 AM »
And so it begins... again.

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Offline Staga

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« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2001, 03:47:00 AM »
Well I found climb rate for Me-262: 3940ft/min(<-Edited,Thx Swager :)).

Me-262 was 800-1000kg lighter than P-47 (Both empty and max. weight) so I guess it really climbed that fast.

[ 10-05-2001: Message edited by: Staga ]
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Offline Staga

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« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2001, 04:15:00 AM »
Not sure if these numbers are right but they might give some explanation.

Me-262 Empty weight 3800kg/wing area 21,7m2 = 175kg/m2 wingload.
Max. weight 7130kg/wing area 21,7 = 328kg/m2

P-47-D-30 Empty weight 4812kg/wing-area 27,9m2= 172kg/m2
Max.Weight 7900kg/wing-area 27,9m2=283kg/m2

Light Me-262 has almost same wingload than light P-47.
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Offline Staga

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« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2001, 04:29:00 AM »
Something Me-262 is still mnissing:

Me 262A-1a Special Equipment

R4M air-to-air rockets
RATO installation of 2 x Ri 502
BMW 003R installation
Radar installation of FuG 350 Zc Naxos
under fuselage drop tank carrier for 500 litre fuel tank.
R110BS air-to-air rockets
Ru 344 (X4) air launch missile

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Offline gatt

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« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2001, 04:55:00 AM »
*Initial* climb rate of the Me262A-1 (fully loaded) was something less than 4,000ft/min, as Staga posted. At 6.000mt (about 19,700ft) climb rate was about 2,100ft/min. Time to 6,000mt was about 6'50".
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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2001, 05:00:00 AM »
True, It really doesn't climb too well over 20k. But its still fast as he_l up there  :)
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Offline ~Caligula~

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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2001, 05:09:00 AM »
Well I guess climb is OK but how about turning?I can dogfight pretty much anyting in it,without really using any E management.

BTW I`m dedicated LW debating a LW plane being too good,does it qualify to the luftwhiner category?
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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2001, 05:17:00 AM »
LOL Staga, I posted those data to show that the Mossie climbs pretty well, imho, even at 20K   :)
BTW, my little 205 takes more than 6' to get there ... Really, I thought the Schwalbe was a bad climber.

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« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2001, 07:28:00 AM »
3940ft a second!!  Whoa!!!

One fast climbing mofo!!!

 :)

Staga, I know it is a typo, just ribbin ya!  :)

Hey Staga, BTW, thanks for an alternate place to download.  Much faster!!
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« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2001, 07:44:00 AM »
big difference is that at 200 perks a pop we won't be seeing the skie full of 262s
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« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2001, 07:47:00 AM »
yep exile.

i was stupid enough to take one up right as the MA opened for the 1st time.

flew around a bit, then got discoed  :(
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Offline Staga

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« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2001, 08:33:00 AM »
Caligula all I know is light Me-262's wing-load is only slightly worser than light Me-109G-6's, 175kg/m2 for Me-262 against 167kg/m2 for Me-109G6 if numbers I have are correct.
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