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Offline midnight Target

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« Reply #45 on: January 24, 2003, 02:32:42 PM »
I know exactly what you're doing.

I'm not gonna play. :p

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« Reply #46 on: January 24, 2003, 02:41:52 PM »
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Who gets the cash? - In the US, would'nt the cash go to Black Americans?
what about the irish? chiniese? germans? spanish? english? scottish? they going to get paid too for being slaves?,up till 1800 there were still plenty of white slaves,,and there saying they want money for slaves back in 1400's,,,well what about all the othere slaves?,,people act like blacks were the only slaves in the usa,,they were not,,anyone who was poor was a slave,,plain and simple,,so that means about 80% of the population was probly a slave at one time or anothere,,lol

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« Reply #47 on: January 24, 2003, 02:43:48 PM »

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« Reply #48 on: January 24, 2003, 02:44:31 PM »
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so that means about 80% of the population was probly a slave


Please go on...

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« Reply #49 on: January 24, 2003, 02:56:39 PM »
naw,,i wont go too far,,because people will get upset:),,heheh,,everyone tring to get money out of people for old crap,,are the jews going to start sewing europe for being slaves in the roman empire?,,or sew iraq because they were slaves in babalon?,,its allmost the same thing,,,and plenty of white ,,chiniese,,,black,,on and on,, were slaves in the usa,,,building railroads right along the blacks suffering and deing just the same way,,anyone who was poor back then was a slave,,allmost the hole world,,lol,,only a tiny percent of people become rich in there life time,,and back then the tiny percent was even smaller,,lol,,only things that happen in a persons life time should be paid to them

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« Reply #50 on: January 24, 2003, 03:20:50 PM »
wonder how weez can get away with posting an offensive graphic most other boards including ebay would pull ??
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« Reply #51 on: January 24, 2003, 03:31:56 PM »
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MT - If your beliefs cannot withstand even the most superficial scrutiny, why would you hold them so dear?

I have no idea what your rationale for supporting AA while not supporting Reparations might be... given that they are related. You might have a perfectly valid explanation...

But if you won't discuss it because you are afraid that some inconsistancy in your position will be exposed, you are not really dedicated to the truth. C'mon, give it a shot.
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« Reply #52 on: January 24, 2003, 03:52:18 PM »
:D

Nothing works as well as using a few Michael Moore quotes as bait to bring out the redneck in a person.

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« Reply #53 on: January 24, 2003, 04:10:11 PM »
ever hear the old bible saying,,sins of the father and son? talking about how you shall not be blamed for the sins of your father or for the sins of the son<~~pretty much saying,,if your father murderd some one and later down the road after he dies,,they figure out your dad killed a person,,,does that mean you have to be killed for somthing he did?,,no it dont,,what your father did too some one shouldnt have any thing to do with you,,and you should not be blamed for somthing that you didnt do your self,,plain and simple:)

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« Reply #54 on: January 24, 2003, 04:17:31 PM »
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Originally posted by hyena426
naw,,i wont go too far,,because people will get upset:),,heheh,,everyone tring to get money out of people for old crap,,are the jews going to start sewing europe for being slaves in the roman empire?,,or sew iraq because they were slaves in babalon?,,its allmost the same thing,,,and plenty of white ,,chiniese,,,black,,on and on,, were slaves in the usa,,,building railroads right along the blacks suffering and deing just the same way,,anyone who was poor back then was a slave,,allmost the hole world,,lol,,only a tiny percent of people become rich in there life time,,and back then the tiny percent was even smaller,,lol,,only things that happen in a persons life time should be paid to them


Hmmm, will the jews be bringing their sewing machines with them too?  ;)

Actually if any group or person wants to sue another government I couldn't care less.

Reparations in this case I am against as how in the world can it be fairly awarded? How can it be fairly taken away? Who would be found liable? Too many questions that probably can't be accurately/fairly answered.

Have Black Americans been wronged? Absolutely.
Do they still feel the effects of racial prejudice? Sure do.

Perhaps we're asking the wrong questions.
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« Reply #55 on: January 24, 2003, 04:18:44 PM »
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But if you won't discuss it because you are afraid that some inconsistancy in your position will be exposed, you are not really dedicated to the truth. C'mon, give it a shot.


I've posted plenty on the subject. I've posted plenty on AA, and Reparations. If you think my stand may be flawed you put in the work and ferrett me out.

Good luck in your endeavors Sir Gunthr. But remeber this... sometimes that light you see is just a train coming.

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« Reply #56 on: January 24, 2003, 04:20:38 PM »
I get real tired of hearing "BLACK" people crying how they were oppressed for 200 hundred years so we want reparations ,
I am jewish by decent we have been oppressed since the time of the egyptians,greeks,romans,spanish,Hitler
I dont expect nor whine about  Reparations  
and I really wish these whiney squeakes would dry up and blow away

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« Reply #57 on: January 24, 2003, 04:32:44 PM »
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I believe reparations should only be considered only to those who endured slavery themselves (and not their far ancestors) - Animal


I know of only a few black men connected to AH and Warbirds - one is "Doc" a co-founder of the 332nd Flying Mongrels (with Daddog Glazier) my old squad - who is an MD as in "medical doctor" and an outstanding person, Stigler, the German black guy from Warbirds...  yourself, maybe a few others who came and went.

I value your perspective ...
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« Reply #58 on: January 24, 2003, 04:35:16 PM »
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I've posted plenty on the subject. I've posted plenty on AA, and Reparations. If you think my stand may be flawed you put in the work and ferrett me out. - MT



If you won't partake, I can't force you. :)
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« Reply #59 on: January 24, 2003, 04:42:25 PM »
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Originally posted by rickod
I get real tired of hearing "BLACK" people crying how they were oppressed for 200 hundred years so we want reparations ,
I am jewish by decent we have been oppressed since the time of the egyptians,greeks,romans,spanish,Hitler
I dont expect nor whine about  Reparations  
and I really wish these whiney squeakes would dry up and blow away


Here in the United States, when you sit down at a restaurant, do you get no service or worse service? When you walk into a store, do you get looked over because they think you're going to steal?
You're walking down the street, do others cross the street in front of you to avoid being near you? Do women clutch their purses tighter as they pass you? Were your ancestors enslaved by this govt.? Passed over for promotions? Never getting "that" job? Denied access to restrooms, restaurants, drinking fountains, etc. (many more samples but I'll stop here.)
...all because of your skin color?

We won't even go into lynchings, beatings, cross burnings, etc.

One can hide one's religion, one can't hide one's skin color.

BTW. It's a heavy burden to carry because of one's skin color, no?
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