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Offline SaburoS

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« Reply #105 on: January 24, 2003, 08:46:38 PM »
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Oh Oh Oh... I know this one... :)
Note... the plants came before the Sun according to the book.


Shhh Sandman I want the all knowing Hortlund to answer. Why should I listen to anyone else? After all according to him, you're nothing but a moron :rolleyes:
After he's finished sharing with us the origins of life, he can go onto more important things like curing AIDS, the common cold, cancer, world poverty, etc. He is so brilliant.
Heck, because of him I am very fearful of opening my mail as I am sure Sadaam Hussein has triggered his sleeper cells here in the US with their anthrax attack.
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« Reply #106 on: January 24, 2003, 08:53:23 PM »
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There is solid evidence disproving stellar evolutionary theories.
Conclusion. The truly great men are those who acknowledge that God made the universe and everything within it.—p. 23.


Really? What book did you get this from? Who wrote this article?
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« Reply #107 on: January 24, 2003, 09:47:12 PM »
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Conclusion. The truly great men are those who acknowledge that God made the universe and everything within it.—p. 23.



Hyena.. dood... you need some newer books.
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« Reply #108 on: January 24, 2003, 10:00:26 PM »
Personally I think the 2000 year old supersticion stories of nomadic desert dwelling filtyh poor Palestenian goatherders are more credible than 2000+ years of civilized science at explaining everything.. Yes, Yes I do...

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« Reply #109 on: January 24, 2003, 10:09:42 PM »
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Conclusion. The truly great men are those who acknowledge that God made the universe and everything within it.—p. 23.


LOL!  Falsifying a theory does not suddenly prove another theory corrrect.  The null hypothesis for stellar evolution is not the existence of God, it's that stellar evolution is an incorrect theory.

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« Reply #110 on: January 24, 2003, 10:19:32 PM »
OK heres a question:

If there is a god, is it considered a lifeform?

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« Reply #111 on: January 24, 2003, 10:29:38 PM »
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OK heres a question:

If there is a god, is it considered a lifeform?


Can it reproduce and create another god?
Can it die?

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« Reply #112 on: January 24, 2003, 10:46:53 PM »
Does god go the bathroom?  I bet he does because we were made in his image and have all the parts too.  

What does god read in the bathroom?

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« Reply #113 on: January 25, 2003, 12:36:25 AM »
Each and every one of us knows not our final destination or status after death.  You may think you know but you cant possibly know.  Its a singular event and unless you have died and been resurrected you dont know squat.

As a result many develope a faith, most faiths unfortunately are dependant on the written word of men from centuries ago, still others rely on the modern likes of Jim Jones and that Waco Texas freak as examples.  Many deep thinkers prescribe to the "revert theory", that is, upon the moment of death we revert back to where we came from.  From Nothing, to Nothing.  -N O T H I N G-  We do find that some religions depend on the recycle mechanism.  Reincarnation.  Unfortunaltey, in my estimation, the most likely scenario will be the revert scenario,  My own observations of nature seem to point to this eventuality.  Not really inspiring is it.
 
In closing:  We will each get our very own unique opportunity to experience the final passage as life ends and rest assured it will result in one of four things.

A) Nothing forever and ever, amen (athiest)

B) Something Good Forever (God of Mercy, wonderful, sign me up)

C) Something Bad Forever (God with no mercy, ugly, I want out of this contract)

D) Perpeptual reincarnation (least likely but doesnt sound all that bad, just depends)

Take yer pick
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« Reply #114 on: January 25, 2003, 02:13:59 AM »
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Really? What book did you get this from? Who wrote this article?
i recomend this site,,its called Unmasking The False Religion of Evolution,,it says on there

The theory of evolution is something people chooses to believe. They do not and cannot know that it is true. Real science deals with things that are observable and testable, and neither creation nor evolution are scientifically provable. Both views are religious in nature.

he is even offering money on the web site to anyone who can prove evolution,,so if you all got it figured out,go prove it,,and get some cash dangit!!,,lol here is the web site  http://www.douknow.net/ev_UnmaskingTheFalseReligionofEvolution.htm

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« Reply #115 on: January 25, 2003, 02:33:26 AM »
Gotta do better than that Hyena... I love this one...

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The creationist world-view says that God made the universe about six thousand years ago. The evolutionist world-view teaches that the universe made itself from nothing about twenty million years ago. One of these opposing world-views obviously is wrong.


Current evidence indicates that the earth began approximately 4.5 billion years ago and the universe is at least 11 billion years old.

My guess is that Mr. Weaver has never attended a class on cosmology. My guess is that he's not a wiz with math either...

Consider the globular cluster, M15. It is 40,000 light years away. That's right... the light we see today, began the journey to earth 40,000 years ago. Nevermind the stars that are billions of light years away. Doesn't quite fit Mr. Weaver's timeline, now does it?
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« Reply #116 on: January 25, 2003, 03:37:33 AM »
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Gotta do better than that Hyena... I love this one...
go prove your right and get that money then:)<~`ill by you a beer too after you get the $10,000,,lol prove the big bang to be true,,,,a big bang just happend out of nothingness<~~how can that happen?,science nor anyone can prove that,,how can the hydrogen atom just appear out of nothing?,,, and then explode and form a vast universe,, science believes this to be true,, a belief,,sounds like religion again,,lol,,thought they only based science on facts not beliefs?<~~and if he is lieing about the 10,000 sue:),,lol,,jk but its worth a shot


but threoy is a belief in somthing that isnt proven yet,,just like some people are saying about god,,,so in a way,,god is allmost a threoy ,,lol,,im not taking anyone side on this,,,ill make my own choices and not push any of my beliefs on anyone,,i was just giving my point of veiw on it and info,,thats all nothing more all

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« Reply #117 on: January 25, 2003, 04:37:48 AM »
lol Ripsnort, Sandman's comments could be aimed at anyone who doubts the veracity of biological evolution - even non-religious scientists. It was your insecurities that led you to see it as an attack on faith.

But then, that has always been the case, no? Everytime there is a discussion of this type, you raise the spectre of anti-theistic agenda. It's pathetically predictable. Do you have anything original to offer?

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Each and every one of us knows not our final destination or status after death. You may think you know but you cant possibly know. Its a singular event and unless you have died and been resurrected you dont know squat.

As a result many develope a faith, most faiths unfortunately are dependant on the written word of men from centuries ago, still others rely on the modern likes of Jim Jones and that Waco Texas freak as examples. Many deep thinkers prescribe to the "revert theory", that is, upon the moment of death we revert back to where we came from. From Nothing, to Nothing. -N O T H I N G- We do find that some religions depend on the recycle mechanism. Reincarnation. Unfortunaltey, in my estimation, the most likely scenario will be the revert scenario, My own observations of nature seem to point to this eventuality. Not really inspiring is it.

In closing: We will each get our very own unique opportunity to experience the final passage as life ends and rest assured it will result in one of four things.

A) Nothing forever and ever, amen (athiest)

B) Something Good Forever (God of Mercy, wonderful, sign me up)

C) Something Bad Forever (God with no mercy, ugly, I want out of this contract)

D) Perpeptual reincarnation (least likely but doesnt sound all that bad, just depends)

Take yer pick


Oh dear. The meaning of life, sanctimoniously summed up in 300 words. Well done Yeager. I love the 'bible speak' - 'knows not our final destination or status after death'!!

Talking in that manner doesn't lend your blurb any credibility you know. And to sum up life after death into 4 highly simplisitic belief systems is simple minded at best. Clearly you've know concept of the individuality of spiritual belief - many people would not fit into any of your coverall theories.
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« Reply #118 on: January 25, 2003, 04:44:42 AM »
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but threoy is a belief in somthing that isnt proven yet,,just like some people are saying about god


No it's not. A scientific theory is used to explain observed phenomena but, unlike any opiate for the masses, that's not where it ends. It's a start. The theory is then tested in repeatable controlled conditions. It is refined and honed to a point where it becomes almost fact - but it is open to complete revision at any time.

Religion on the other hand, is taken as the absolute truth and in no way can a religion be found to wrong. There are no checks and balances because people are too busy carrying out the sacraments of their particular faith. There is also a complete unwillingness to believe they may have it wrong and therefore there is no revision.
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« Reply #119 on: January 25, 2003, 04:51:40 AM »
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The theory is then tested in repeatable controlled conditions
how did they test a hydro atom appearing out of nothing like in the big bang threory?, how can it be a threory?,,its never been tested,,but its called a threory anyways,,without valid controlled testing and condition,,,,,it turns into a belief,,untill they prove it,,the begining of time will allways be a belief ,,,its going to be the hardest thing in history to prove
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