Author Topic: Mandela speaks (Read 1969 times)

Yeager · « **on:** January 30, 2003, 08:47:07 AM »

JOHANNESBURG, South Africa (CNN) -- Former South African president Nelson Mandela has slammed the U.S. stance on Iraq, saying that "one power with a president who has no foresight, who cannot think properly, is now wanting to plunge the world into a holocaust."

Speaking at the International Women's Forum, Mandela said "if there is a country that has committed unspeakable atrocities in the world, it is the United States of America."

Ripsnort · « **Reply #1 on:** January 30, 2003, 08:52:48 AM »

I bet he and Farrahkan get along great.

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #2 on:** January 30, 2003, 08:59:48 AM »

That was a good whine - I particularly like the use of the word "Holocaust" to grab attention - so what if its used out of context.

Lets bomb him next.

Dowding · « **Reply #3 on:** January 30, 2003, 09:00:20 AM »

He is getting on, bless him. His mind is not what it once was.

Maybe he's referring to Hiroshima/Nagasaki? Or continued US support of an apartheid in Palestine? Could be anything.

straffo · « **Reply #4 on:** January 30, 2003, 09:40:50 AM »

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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
That was a good whine - I particularly like the use of the word "Holocaust" to grab attention - so what if its used out of context.

Lets bomb him next.

???

Why is it out of context ?

He is not speaking of the Shoa.

see sense 1
holocaust
n 1: an act of great destruction and loss of life
2: the Nazi program of exterminating Jews under Hitler [syn: Holocaust,
final solution]

ra · « **Reply #5 on:** January 30, 2003, 09:48:08 AM »

He also implied that the UK and US are disagreeing with the UN because Kofi Annan is black. What a tool.

ra

Ripsnort · « **Reply #6 on:** January 30, 2003, 09:49:05 AM »

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Originally posted by ra
He also implied that the UK and US are disagreeing with the UN because Kofi Annan is black. What a tool.

ra

Ahh, the race card.

midnight Target · « **Reply #7 on:** January 30, 2003, 10:21:01 AM »

Ghandi made mistakes too. Was he a tool?

Mandela is a great man who did great things for his country. He deserves some slack.

Gunthr · « **Reply #8 on:** January 30, 2003, 10:27:47 AM »

I'm begining to believe that Mandella is a racist.

bounder · « **Reply #9 on:** January 30, 2003, 10:32:14 AM »

I think he is using holocaust in the strict sense, sacrifice by burning.

Deeper still, the idea of sacrifice is interesting because it implies no guilt.

But this is not Mandela's usual style. Maybe he still holds a grudge against US pharmocos after the AIDS drug controversy?

Dune · « **Reply #10 on:** January 30, 2003, 11:00:43 AM »

Mandela was a communist stooge and terrorist. Along with the rest of his goons. After his stay in prison he decided to go to the race card to gain his support.

I'm not saying aparthied was good, but Mandela being described as a man of peace is a laugh. He killed more blacks than aparthied ever did.

And now his proteges are leading the country. Straight in the toejamter. SA is on its way to becoming the new Zimbabwe.

21 000 people were murdered in South Africa last year. According to Rape Crisis, a woman is raped every 3 seconds in South Africa. According to a study by Unisa, based on police information, a million women and children are raped annually.

ra · « **Reply #11 on:** January 30, 2003, 11:07:45 AM »

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Mandela is a great man who did great things for his country. He deserves some slack.

Winnie Mandela stood by him through it all, does she deserve slack? No. She deserves a rubber room. I judge them by their behavior, not by their autobiography.

Mandela is Ghandi now?

ra

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #12 on:** January 30, 2003, 11:09:15 AM »

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Originally posted by bounder

But this is not Mandela's usual style. Maybe he still holds a grudge against US pharmocos after the AIDS drug controversy?

You mean the crisis caused by Thabo Mbeki's idiotic stance that white man's AIDS drugs dont work on black people?

rc51 · « **Reply #13 on:** January 30, 2003, 12:11:33 PM »

mandellas is a silly little man no one really cares what he thinks

miko2d · « **Reply #14 on:** January 30, 2003, 02:01:33 PM »

GRUNHERZ: You mean the crisis caused by Thabo Mbeki's idiotic stance that white man's AIDS drugs dont work on black people?

No, Thabo Mbeki subscribed to a hypothesis proposed by some american scientists that HIV was not the cause of AIDS. You will find a lot of info on the web if you do a search.
There were some valid reasons to support that point of view - including a lot of AIDS disgnosis without HIV ever detected and drugs killing people faster than AIDS.

miko