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Offline Habu

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Why the US should tell the UN to get stuffed
« on: February 02, 2003, 06:47:32 PM »
It is interesting when things like the US's hunt for weapons in Iraq or the war on terrorism how many times people in these forums or in the press bring up the United Nations. It is as if the United Nations is some kind of higher body that should be dictating what the US should be doing.

The UN is anything but.  It has become highjacked by third world despotic regimes and euro-weenie (France) countries that use it as a mouthpiece to promote their agendas and to block any criticism of them or of their dictatorial colleagues. So next time some tries to quote a UN resolution that condemns Israel's fight to exist or the US's war on terrorism remember these facts.

Some recent examples of why the UN should not be taken seriously.

Last week it was announced that Iraq and Iran will co-chair the UN's key disarmament negotiating forum during its May 12 to June 27 meetings in Geneva. Yes right now when the two most important situations affecting world peace are the North Korean nuclear crisis and Iraq's refusal to destroy its weapons of mass destruction, the UN makes these appointments. So how credible is the UN?

The week before Libya was elected to chair the UN Human Rights Commission. Yes that is right Libya. No I did not make this up. What are the odds that this commission will focus any attention on any of the human rights atrocites occurring in third world Arab countries? Of course Libya is only the chair, the rest of the commission will insure that justice is done. Right? Well lets look at some of the rest of the members.

The dictatorships of Libya, Saudi Arabia, Sudan Syria and Cuba are on all it. So is Zimbabwe, possibly worst human rights abusers in Africa. China and Russia are all members of this 53 member commission? An argument may be made for Russia and China (despite what is going on in Chechnya and Tibet) inclusion based on their size and power but what argument can be made for any of the others mentioned being there?

Yes those countries are all responsible for making the resolutions that condemn the countries that abuse human rights. Of course they vote in blocs and make sure that they use these coalitions to deflect attention on true human rights abusers and focus it on countries like Israel. That is why of the 59 General Assembly resolutions made during the 2001 session almost half dealt with Israel while the General Assembly remained silent of the actions of many ruthless undemocratic regimes.

As long as the UN has the naive notion that every state is equal to every other, regardless of whether it is a dictatorship or a democracy and regardless of its record on human civil, and political rights, it will continue to be irrelevant.

Remember that next time someone tells you it is not.
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2003, 07:25:42 PM »
sniff....

sniff....

Stinky bait.

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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2003, 07:32:23 PM »
It is all true.

I just wanted to point out the obvious just in case anyone here actually thought the UN was important.

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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2003, 08:28:55 PM »
I don't think the League Of"UN" is important.    It IS  an embarrassment, however............

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Re: Why the US should tell the UN to get stuffed
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2003, 09:53:56 PM »
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Originally posted by Habu
Last week it was announced that Iraq and Iran will co-chair he UN's key disarmament negotiating forum during its May 12 to June 27 meetings in Geneva. Yes right now when the two most important situations affecting world peace are the North Korean nuclear crisis and Iraq's refusal to destroy its weapons of mass destruction, the UN makes these appointments. So how credible is the UN?




The chair is held by nations in alphabetical order, hence Iran and Iraq are next. Piss poor timing inho but not quite the great UN conspiracy some want us to believe.

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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2003, 10:03:33 PM »
:)

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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2003, 10:52:39 PM »
:rolleyes:



Please tell me you were drunk when you posted that Russian.

Habu, the UN is not worth the land it's HQ sits on.  The US needs to cease all funding for it and see just how far the 3rd world dregs get.
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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2003, 04:38:45 AM »
Right on Bodhi.

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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2003, 05:00:10 AM »
George Washington warned us about getting involved in stuff like this, the UN that is .

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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2003, 05:42:19 AM »
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It is as if the United Nations is some kind of higher body that should be dictating what the should be doing.


Hrmmmm...thats exactly what Saddam thinks too...

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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2003, 05:53:24 AM »
lol Nice one. :D
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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2003, 06:14:22 AM »
So if France is weenie the US of A must be faschist?

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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2003, 06:58:04 AM »
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So if France is weenie the US of A must be faschist?


The US is the greatest democracy in the world. After WW2 it defended Germany against Russia. Remember the Berlin airlift?

France on the other hand never lets a opportunity to thumb it's nose at the US slip by. The latest episode where France and Germany refused to support the US's initative against Iraq in not the first. Remember the air raid on Libya when France would not let the US overfly its air space? Or how about in June 2000 during President Clinton's last year in office when France was the only one of 107 countries to refuse to sign a U.S. initiative aimed at encouraging democracy around the world. You can trace a similar series of slights right back to the end of WW2.

When Charles de Gaulle became president of France after the war, he was resentful that FDR had refused to recognize his Free French resistance over the Vichy regime during the war. De Gaulle decided never to depend on the Americans again, and though he was an ally of the United States, he was an exceptionally cranky one, pursuing détente with the Soviet Union, withdrawing militarily from NATO, and establishing an independent French nuclear force.

Why are the French so quick to try to disagree with the US? Simple, they resent and fear dominance of American power—militarily, economically, culturally, and technologically.  The French oppose the United States, quite simply, for what it is—the most powerful country on earth.

The fact that your country Germany would now choose to support France over its staunchest protector and friend, the United States, only shows the world how ungrateful the German people are. There were hundreds of thousands of US troops ready to die defending Germany from the USSR during the Cold War. I guess that means little to you now that it is over and the Soviets are no longer a threat.

Take your facist comment and shove it up your arse.
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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2003, 08:36:53 AM »
To make things short and understandable

And as we don't have the right to disagree with you :





"greatest democracy"  ?

a demograzy like your  ?

no thanks ...



Et puis merde je vais pas me faire chier à instruire un nye culturny.

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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2003, 08:41:43 AM »
The truth hurts don't it straffo.