163s - the death of HQ raids

[BigGun]

Ya..where are some of those old threads talkin about fraud boy voss?

[Aub]

Rotor, have you thought about investing in better bait?

[GrimCO]

After reading all the posts, I almost forgot this thread was about the 163 mucking up bomber raids on HQ  :-)

I think the 163 was a GREAT addition to the game, and in reality doesn't stop HQ killing at all. As was mentioned before, knock out the fuel at the bases by HQ, and the 163 problem goes away.

Aside from a few like minded pilots, I know it's like pulling teeth to get people to strategically hit a base to accomplish a certain goal. I used to get upset about it myself, but then I thought "Hey, if I'm paying for everyone's Aces High accounts, that's when I can expect them to go along with my plans".

Now I just kind of laugh when my country is backed into a corner and I hear all the whining about being ganged by the other two countries. I just up a heavy fighter and go kill all their barracks... It's amazing how much damage one guy can do if you use the strategy built into this game  :-)

[streetstang]

I just want to put in my opinion on this whole 163 thing. This plane make any escort at all worthless. It removes the reality aspect from the entire though of strat bombing. Any plane, no matter what it is, is going to be absolutley no match for the 163 which is why i think it needs to go. What is the point of flying two hours to get to your target only to have this stupid little guided rocket pluck you out of the sky like you weren't even there. Now don't get me wrong, Ive shot down quite a few and it caan be done with some ease if you know what your doing, but this is rediculous. I will be the first to admit when somthing is fair or isn't, but these things have to go and go NOW!!!

[Mugzeee]

Originally posted by Midnight
I saw 3 formations of B17s coming to bomb HQ. Those guys probably flew for at least 20 minutes to make the altitude they were at.

 
Just a Note....If they were at 30,000 ft.
They likely flew for an Hour just to get to Target.

[Hangtime]

What is the point of flying two hours to get to your target only to have this stupid little guided rocket pluck you out of the sky like you weren't even there.

Something the germans probably remarked about... right after wondering why they didn't have more of 'em and sooner.

Escort fighters are marginally effective against a well organised fighter attack. They are useless against a well organized Comet Attack. Just like they were 60 years ago.

I think it's fuggin funny as hell... and it adds to the 'realisim' the strat guys have been after since day one.

Whine, ON!

[streetstang]

Originally posted by Hangtime
Something the germans probably remarked about... right after wondering why they didn't have more of 'em and sooner.

Im speaking matter of fact and your talking what might have happend. Im going to be right to the point on this one, HT trys to make the senerio as real and as historical as posible. OK, with that said, even if they have kept the 163 in the game, there is no way in heck that this stupid little bird should take out a whole flock of B17s on one pass, while our gunners are smacking them right in the face with 50 cal. machine guns and they fly away like nothing ever happend. This is not a well suited bird for this game. They took away the aspect of lazer bombers, fine; now we have to worry about callibration, wind, alt ect. Bring the 163 into the picture and throw all of that out the window, the formation might as well have been at 10000 feet because not only is the stupid little bird bullet proof, but they are cheap, and in endless suply at the HQ air feild. Meaning, any idiot can get in one and shoot down an entire formation. If you want to get historic here guys think about this, when was the last time you have seen a 163 in any WW2 film come along and rip apart bombers like tissue paper??? Never... Throw some 152s up there and have em Dog fight with the escorts, not have a 163 come in make one pass and explode two or three bombers with one single pass.
Thanks, i knew id get some of you wind bags going on this one...

[streetstang]

I forgot to say, if you think your such a great pilot, bring somthing with a prop up to 35,000 ft and play with me there. You will know why these cry babies cry the way they do and praise the 163. Its not, and i'll say it again, as far as game play is concerned, the 163 issue is a dead one, the bird needs to go!!!

[BGBMAW]

street guy..Will you tell me your Handle in the MA?

the ME163 ....well you are either a crappy gunr or dont shoot from 17s'..They will rip a 163 in half..."your line of 163' sgettig smaked in face with 50 cals"..lmfao..

Yes the damage model is still in process of refinements (1 pass killing all 3 buffs is bad)

(streets quote)Ive shot down quite a few and it caan be done with some ease if you know what your doing, but this is rediculous.

What the hell are you saying?? Its easy to shoot them down?? Or its not..Maybe your english is a bit ruff...


anyways...go pork there fuel like its been said in here many times...Can you do that? No not with 1 or 2 guys...But get some more friends..ya,,,its easy


You guys are funny..its amazing that HTC and crew have done such a DAM good job putting this game up..with all the diff roles there are to  do in this game and work so well with each other..othere rthen they very small fraction of game play problems its a dam fine job...

And stop crying about 163's....


One more stupid quote from this guy Stang

It removes the reality aspect from the entire though of strat bombing.

...LMFAO!!! What are all your strat targets with in range of the HQ base on your map??? wow what map is that??  O ya.. I have seen that problem..groups of 163's hotlaoding at bases to protect the Refinery....LMFAO

whaaaa

Love BiGB
xoxo

no personal attaks here...just calling it how it is..

[Innominate]

There is a simple trick to beating 163's.

Nose-down turns.  Nose level or up, the 163 can turn like a spitfire.  But in a dive it accellerates unbelivably fast.  ANY plane can out-turn a nose down 163 without trouble.

[BGBMAW]

innom...i just stared to notice that...it works very well..

[Hangtime]

ROFL!!

 

I forgot to say, if you think your such a great pilot, bring somthing with a prop up to 35,000 ft and play with me there. You will know why these cry babies cry the way they do and praise the 163. Its not, and i'll say it again, as far as game play is concerned, the 163 issue is a dead one, the bird needs to go!!!

I take it your one of those alt monkey perk point farmin harrasment HQ killin buff herders that just loves his lazer guided defensive guns.

Well, kid; you go right on trolling around the stratosphere.. and lazer gun any prop jock thats dum enough to go up there and try a screw yer porcupine ass. While yer poppin the plexi outta 35k TA152's and Dora's remember...

The Komet was made to kill yah.

Quit yer squeakin, die like a man.

[Mugzeee]

Originally posted by BGBMAW
street guy..Will you tell me your Handle in the MA?

the ME163 ....well you are either a crappy gunr or dont shoot from 17s'..They will rip a 163 in half..."your line of 163' sgettig smaked in face with 50 cals"..lmfao..

Yes the damage model is still in process of refinements (1 pass killing all 3 buffs is bad)

 

What the hell are you saying?? Its easy to shoot them down?? Or its not..Maybe your english is a bit ruff...


anyways...go pork there fuel like its been said in here many times...Can you do that? No not with 1 or 2 guys...But get some more friends..ya,,,its easy


You guys are funny..its amazing that HTC and crew have done such a DAM good job putting this game up..with all the diff roles there are to  do in this game and work so well with each other..othere rthen they very small fraction of game play problems its a dam fine job...

And stop crying about 163's....


One more stupid quote from this guy Stang


 ...LMFAO!!! What are all your strat targets with in range of the HQ base on your map??? wow what map is that??  O ya.. I have seen that problem..groups of 163's hotlaoding at bases to protect the Refinery....LMFAO

whaaaa

Love BiGB
xoxo

no personal attaks here...just calling it how it is..

BGBMAW.......Take it easy man.  It seems like your just a trouble making taunting jerk.  Your Not are you?These posts get rediculas.  You would think that all the community were the desingers and producers of this game.
personal attacks are totaly un called for.

[streetstang]

Originally posted by BGBMAW
street guy..Will you tell me your Handle in the MA?

the ME163 ....well you are either a crappy gunr or dont shoot from 17s'..They will rip a 163 in half..."your line of 163' sgettig smaked in face with 50 cals"..lmfao..

Well i hope your game play isn't as bad as your attitude, if it is your probably not a very nice player to play the game with. I'll be the last one to insult a person and the first one to admit when im wrong, and im only about to do one of the two, but being the type of person i am, im going to bite my tonge and stick with my opinion. SOme one has to be they bigger man... DAM THE 163

[BGBMAW]

Bite your tongue.......lolo

here you go..I quote you...you tell me......

while our gunners are smacking them right in the face with 50 cal. machine guns and they fly away like nothing ever happend.

um..strange..I never heard any saying thses are armor plated 163's...

So I say roadkill to this..Ive killed many 163's.


and next ....

Now don't get me wrong, Ive shot down quite a few and it caan be done with some ease if you know what your doing, but this is rediculous

So what the hell are you saying??? They are an "ease to shoot down"..or They fly away like nothing hit them"

...lolol..I know you may have made a mistake..just admit it and
move along....

1 more...

It removes the reality aspect from the entire though of strat bombing.

"Entire"!!! Please..Did you know there are many strat targets??
Yes HQ is the most important..but it should be well defended

Please ..respond to these 3 quotes.......

Yes I can agree with 1 thing you said...the 1 pass 3 ded b-17s is a sad thing..

So..lets hear it"Bigger Man"

Love BiGB

and .come on whats your handle?are you one of my squad mates or just some other ahole in this game..lolo:D..Fuk lighten up im joking,,,,,,,,...................................ahole...