Another @%$^& "PERK THIS" thread

[Terror]

How about perking the "Big Four" for about 5 perkies?

The "Big Four" being:

Spit IX
N1K2-J
La7
P-51D

Just a light PERK to see if the plane usage balances a bit...

Don't slap me too hard.... it's just an idea....

Terror

[AKcurly]

Originally posted by Terror
How about perking the "Big Four" for about 5 perkies?

The "Big Four" being:

Spit IX
N1K2-J
La7
P-51D

Just a light PERK to see if the plane usage balances a bit...

Don't slap me too hard.... it's just an idea....

Terror

That's pretty funny, Terror.  What's the point?  Exactly where do you stop the perking process?  

The typhoon is faster than any of the above but the la7 and it has 4 hispanos.

The 190d9 is faster than all but the la7 (and it's faster than the typhoon.)  If the d9 has a slight E advantage, the la7 will never run the d9 down.  Furthermore, the d9 iis certainly the equal (if not superior) to the pony if you're not flat on the deck.

And don't even get me started on the 109G10.

Wait!!!  I have an idea.  If you like historical matchups, go to the CT; otherwise, leave us in peace and let us fly what we want.

curly

[Innominate]

The spit9 and n1k2 should under no reason be perked.  (As much as i hate the n1k2 and wish anyone who flies it would die a slow painfull death)  There is simply no way to justify a price on them.

The p51d perhaps, but the p51d seems to be the bar for free planes, anything better gets perked.

The la7 is the only free plane which IMO an argument for perking it can be made.

[icemaw]

Fly your plane in its envelope better then the other guys fly his and hes dead. Dont matter what your flying. The big four may see a lot of usage but so what it dont make them any harder to kill.  Work harder on knowing your plane and what it does best and how to use it against what your fighting. In the end will a spit out turn a FW yes every damn time. If the FW plays the spits game hes dead and DESERVES to be. If the FW uses his planes speed roll and climb the spit will die.

 Its not the plane its the pilot.

 Unless he just shot ME down then hes a damn lammer cheating HO shooting LA7 NIK PONY SPIT dweeb and he needs to be perked not the plane.


 Just my opinion I could be wrong.

[Kevin14]

Man, I don't find the P51 that good, is there something that I haven't encountered yet in it?

[wetrat]

Perking the toejam9, N1K, LA7, and AH's token ride the P-51D is just absurd from a business point of view. Have you any idea how many people would be pissed off if these planes were perked? And I'm willing to bet that many of those pissed would cancel their subscriptions to AH. Personally, I don't think the mustang or toejam9 should be perked. The LA7 and N1K should be, but considering the fact that it's 95% newbies that fly them, they're not a huge threat.

[Innominate]

Originally posted by wetrat
The LA7 and N1K should be, but considering the fact that it's 95% newbies that fly them, they're not a huge threat.

90% of pilots aren't a huge threat anyways, that doesn't change the potential of the aircraft.  The same argument would apply to free spit14s.

[Terror]

Originally posted by AKcurly
That's pretty funny, Terror.  What's the point?  Exactly where do you stop the perking process?  

The typhoon is faster than any of the above but the la7 and it has 4 hispanos.

The 190d9 is faster than all but the la7 (and it's faster than the typhoon.)  If the d9 has a slight E advantage, the la7 will never run the d9 down.  Furthermore, the d9 iis certainly the equal (if not superior) to the pony if you're not flat on the deck.

And don't even get me started on the 109G10.

Wait!!!  I have an idea.  If you like historical matchups, go to the CT; otherwise, leave us in peace and let us fly what we want.

curly

I wasn't suggesting perking them because of performance, but because of usage.  These four make up about 40% of the MA kills.  I just thought a light perk would bring up more variety of early war planes and make the MA a bit more interesting.

And are you saying 5 perks for these rides would be too expensive?  I can earn 5 perkies in 5 minutes in a P51b or F4u-1.

If you are worried about new players, give them some freebie perks when a new account is opened and let them burn them on these if they want....

Terror

[Pongo]

And he just said. All you will do is see a wave of Doras and Typhoons.
You will acomplish nothing but deny people their ride of choice.
If any of them approached the Chogs non perk usasge then maybe..

[Innominate]

Originally posted by Pongo

If any of them approached the Chogs non perk usasge then maybe..

Nothing will ever approach the chogs old usage.  There are enough 'dweeb' planes available that the usage is spread out across a few of them.

I don't agree with perking them, but it is a similar problem.  Instead of just seeing one dweeb-plane everywhere it's the same four or five.

[Kweassa]

There's not much ground to perking the Spitfire.

 Personally, I would like to see the late war aircrafts perked generally - La-7, P-51D, Fw190D-9, Bf109G-10, the Typhoon and the N1K-2 - at very light 3~5 perks, so the MA would be a little more prone to 1943-ish environment.

[Golfer]

I don't honestly think this airplane (one of the most widely used in the war) should be considered for being perked at any value.

In my opinion its ENY is actually a little low, but thats my opinion.

Looking at my stats from Tour 35 (december '02) when i had a little more freetime on my hands therefore killed time by playing more often...

Total of 849 kills to 574 deaths.

Of the kills...

Seafire  -  225
P-51D  -  136
Mosquito  -  37
F4U-1D  -  30
Hurricane MkIIC  -  25
Typhoon  -  22
31 as a Ship Gunner
80 in an Ostwind

Generally speaking i flew the Seafire and Hurricane in base/carrier defense situations.  The P-51 was used normally as a fighter escort and attacker.  Mosquito, F4U, and Typhoon used as ground attackers due to their armament and ordnance capabilities.   The gv/ship gun obviously as a last ditch defense effort.  

What killed me?

P-51 leads the race with 52
Spit IX next in the pack with 45
LA-7 Next (little bastages) with 38
N1K2/P-38/F6F/SpitV each with 20
D9 and G10 with 15 apiece
Ostwind rounds out with 39 (flying too dang low 'n slow)

Since then my flying style has changed (due to severe boredom with the game) but this is a decent example of complete statistics.

What can be taken is my two primary airplanes that tour, were divided in time between attack/escort mission and strictly defense situations.  Tending away from basic "furballing" while trying to get things done with the squadron.  Perking Spitfires and P-51's is insane as they are probably the most well known aircraft (and two of the most beautiful) airplanes and when a new pilot logs on they're going to want to fly what their hero's flew.  I'm sure if you took a survey or recorded the data, P-51's are probably the most frequently flown 'first plane' by new players simply because they are familiar with them.  Whether they saw one at an airshow, discovery wings channel, or just flying along (an all too rare but cherished moment none the less).

My vote is to leave the P-51 and Spit IX alone, as well as the niki (though i don't fly it) because its docile enough to handle and is well armored which suits the beginning flyer...and its not invincible (just ask RV6 when he comes up against my Delta Pony).

On another note...(note bold font, avoided the use of caps lock)

  The LA-7 is a whole other story.  i hate that little bastard.  Perk the hell out of it.  If the Spit XIV is perked then so is the LA-7 as far as i'm concerned, and I dont fly either.  The LA-7 and LA-5 have a similiar relationship to the Typhoon/Tempest i believe.  The first version, slightly less powerful and effective than the successor...the Typhoon was somewhat a failure during the war where the Tempest flourished.  As the case should be with the younger brother LA-5, and the big brother LA-7.  If you're not perking the LA-7, unperk the Tempest.

[Ack-Ack]

Planes should only be perked if that particular plane has a negative effect on game play if there weren't perked, like the Me262 or Me163 (IMO the only two planes that should be perked).  The Spitfire Mk IX, La7, P-51D or the N1K2, even with increased usage doesn't negatively effect the game play in the arena and any calls for them to be perked just because one person thinks that too many fly it is just plain silly.   You sound like MANDOBLE.


Ack-Ack

[Golfer]

Originally posted by Ack-Ack
You sound like MANDOBLE.


Ack-Ack

Was that addressed to me?

[Puke]

Unperk the Chog and I bet you IT won't even achieve its old usage.