Author Topic: Thankfully Saddam is fully cooperating and no longer changinig terms of agreements!  (Read 1228 times)

Offline Slash27

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Thanks Thunder, I wasnt aware of that. Guess I'm no longer ignorant eh Straffo?  .:rolleyes:

  Whats the purpose of them bombing the Kurds? Other than the sporting aspect of it.
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I guess you don't have any kurd in you vicinity...otherwise you would be aware of a bit of Kurd tragedie (btw Turkey as strange human right records ... think about the Armenian)

Kurds were bombed/gazed by Saddam because they wanted an independant Kurdistan and they were supported by Iran ... same reason for the Turkish except they didn't use gaz.

btw Ignorant is not a insult for me just a constat
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Originally posted by Slash27
 Whats the purpose of them bombing the Kurds? Other than the sporting aspect of it.


Actually, if it was for sport, then I could *ALMOST* understand.  However, it seems as though the reasons aren't nearly that clear.  :-(

I have been over in Turkey twice now for Operation Northern Watch.  The Turks, being the host country for the coaltion aircraft, have the final say on whether or not the coaltion flies.  Knowing that, on more than a few occasions, the Turks said "No Fly today!" to the coalition big-wigs.  Instead, their F-16's go blasting off toward the east, only to return a couple of hours later, sans HE bombs.

According to the unofficial reports, every time a large number of Kurds crosses from northern Iraq into SE Turkey, the Turks go bomb 'em.  It's quite intriguing how bombing the Kurds is bad if they're just south of a map line, but it's okay if they're north of it (or if the bombers are from a NATO country).  The politics of this whole deal is rather perplexing.  :-(

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hmm so when Iraq is killing civilians it's bad and a reason why to invade that country but when Turks are doing the same it's O.K ?

Hell it sounds like Iraq should join to the NATO... they might even get some NATO hardware to drop to the kurd villages  :)

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Damn, I'd never heard that before. What a f*cked up situation. Thanks again Thunder. BTW  hello from North Richland Hills


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 Yes, I was aware of Saddam's actions against the Kurds, I wasnt aware of of what Turkey was doing. I had only heard that they were against an independant Kurdish state, not that they were bombing them.  You sure assumed alot from someone asking a question.  
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Keeping Saddam's record for the past 20 years in mind, we want to give him chance after chance to "do the right thing" because he is as trustworthy as a Boy Scout, but you dont think Turkey should be given the same benifit of the doubt?


Err... I'm not sure, but I think the key difference is that Turkey is a member of NATO and is meant to be a partner in a democratic Western alliance, whereas Iraq is led by despotic nut-case. Bombing civilian populations with fighter-bombers is kind of not very civilised. I don't want my country associating with a nation that is prepared to deliberately bomb civilians.

The Kurds want their own state, which would encompass parts of Syria, Iraq and Turkey. I believe broken promises by Western powers have turned a potential ally against Hussein into an enemy. I think we'll be hearing more from the Kurds very soon.
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