My True Feelings.....by Rude

[blitz]

Originally posted by AKIron
Uh, are you forgetting the no small matter of democracy and elections? Bill Clinton was in charge '93-2001.

Ok Sir, so why Bush junior didn't start with them friends when he was elected and fullfilled what papa anounced in a great speech?

Regards Blitz





America is threathened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous

[AKIron]

Originally posted by blitz
Ok Sir, so why Bush junior didn't start with them friends when he was elected and fullfilled what papa anounced in a great speech?

Regards Blitz





America is threathened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous

And what makes you think he hasn't? Afghanistan is a far better place to live today than a couple of years ago. Care to deny this?

[Steve]

Hey Blitz.. I'm curious...you seem to think Iraq is no threat to the US... we disagree... are you saying since Iraq is no threat to the U.S. that we should just leave them alone entirely?

[AKIron]

Oh, forgot to mention Kuwait and Saudi. It has never been the intent or purpose of the US to overthrow a foreign government that is beneficial to it's citizens. And we don't declare war against those that haven't in some way provoked us.

However, in those cases like Iraq, we very well may install a democratic government after we've rebuilt their countries. Please tell me why you are opposed to the US doing so.

Is there a better form of government than the one with the rule of law and where the citizens are free to elect their own leaders?

[Rude]

Originally posted by blitz
That's exactly how it's noticed on my side of the atlantic ocean.

Bush & Tony will do what they want but don't they hide  behind Nato and UN, talkin of freedom. That's BS.



Regards Blitz

btw. would  buy it if Bush senior had started bringin democracy and freedom to  your friends in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait 10 years ago as announced





America is threathened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous

Ya know why thats the perception in Europe? Becuase it's the truth. The problem is not the US, it's euro's who are jealous and have a problem with history and the hand it has dealt them....your economy is in a shambles, your political system serves everyone but the German common man and the EU is not the saviour you had hoped it would be. Try carryin some signs to clean up your own back yard before yappin at the US to follow your lead. What's really funny, is the US citizens perception of Europe is one of, who? We don't give you guys a thought in our daily lives....sure would be nice to blame someone else for our problems.


Blame it on the US....what a bunch of crap. Open your eyes....we're not your enemy....if 3000 Germans died in the middle of Munich, you'de bark a different tune.

You're a cheap shot artist at best....like I said, we'll do what we feel is best for our nation, so get over it.

Bush isn't hiding behind NATO or the UN....can you read? Bush told the UN to act or become irrelevant. Come on....you're a youngster aren't ya....it's the only rationale I have for such empty remarks.

[blitz]

Originally posted by AKIron
And what makes you think he hasn't? Afghanistan is a far better place to live today than a couple of years ago. Care to deny this?

Afganistan wasn't 1 ya friend , ya gave weapons to the moslem terrorists so they could fight the Russians aggressors, that's all.
After it was all over ya didn't care toejam about Afganistan... til 9.11,
than bush immediately explores his interests for the poooor Afganies.


Regards Blitz

btw  i was referring to Saudi Arabi and Kuwait





America is threathened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous

[blitz]

Originally posted by Steve
Hey Blitz.. I'm curious...you seem to think Iraq is no threat to the US... we disagree... are you saying since Iraq is no threat to the U.S. that we should just leave them alone entirely?

Definately NO!


Regards Blitz






America is threathened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous

[Steve]

Blitz,
We shouldn't leave them alone?  But if they are in no way a threat to us,  why shouldn't we?  Tell me your angle on this so i know where you're comin from.

Thanks

[Hangtime]

Saddam is not the threat. He's 2-bit dictator, hardly worthy of our effort.

Bomb Paris.

[Rude]

Originally posted by GScholz
Rude, you are totally correct. The US government's ultimate responsibility is to the people of the United States of America, not to anyone else ... Just as the French government is responsible for the French people, and the German for the Germans. They will all do what they think is right for their people.

and that I can respect....if it were true....they will do what will most likely get them re-elected.

Bush is going to live or die with his choices and that is refreshing. The Democrats here are loving this....they meet in committee each morning to discuss topic tactics.

I hope he is the man I believe him to be, or I'm goin to look kinda silly:)

[Puke]

btw. would buy it if Bush senior had started bringin democracy and freedom to your friends in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait 10 years ago as announced   -Blitz

How?    It's a bummer the Sultans of Kuwait went back on their word for more democracy after they were liberated.  However, why didn't Germany then step up to the plate and do *something* favorable?  And do you dare suggest we go to war with Saudi Arabia to have a regime change?  Tsk, tsk.

Your attitude is refreshing Rude. The issue of course is casualties. Better hope they roll over befor you have to clean out Bagdad street to street. This action will be very hard to explain to vets in 20 years or thier orphand children in 20 years.  -Pongo

Yeah, unlike Saddam, we'll make every effort to spare his civilians.  I guarantee you, there will be less death during this war in Iraq than there has been at Saddam's hand in the past 5-yrs.  So in essence, you really do not care about civilians.  Just continue fooling yourself on that one.  With this upcoming war, once again, the Iraqis will surrender in droves and we'll feed and shelter them until it's over all the while the "captors" evoke stories of hardship and atrocity under his regime.  This time Saddam cannot surrender using terms of settlement that he stays in power and has to remove his weapons of destruction.  He's gone this time.  Once we remove Saddam from power, we'll try to assist in setting up a new government but it'll be a government of the people, just like it is in Afghanastan, rather than our governing them.

[MANDOBLE]

Originally posted by Rude
It's OUR goverment.....it does not exist to serve you or anyone else other than AMERICANS.

Are you sure? Are you sure YOUR goverment is serving YOUR interests?

I know more than one western country where a goverment like yours would ignite serious and masive revolts.

[blitz]

Originally posted by Rude

 Open your eyes....we're not your enemy....if 3000 Germans died in the middle of Munich, you'de bark a different tune.

 

We aren't as quick as you when it goes to war, we had 2 horrible wars here in europe. Except some boneheads .


Regards Blitz






America is threathened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous

[aknimitz]

Amen Rude.

S!
Nim

[blitz]

Originally posted by Steve
Blitz,
We shouldn't leave them alone?  But if they are in no way a threat to us,  why shouldn't we?  Tell me your angle on this so i know where you're comin from.

Thanks

Because UN decided to control him and that's very nessasary.


UN didn't decided though, to have a regime change although i would like to see it with Saddam dead or in excile, who cares.



Regards Blitz






America is threathened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous