Originally posted by SLO
hmm hmm a little history lesson for ya Habu....
von braun is the 1 who built the rockets that killed many many english citizens......yes do call him Dr.Death if ya wish.....
oh ya and he says he never saw anything wrong with jews who looked half dead buildin his rockets....he musta been blind
and no at that time there was no arms race with the ruskies....the US was still helping the ruskies
your views are not mine Habu..so please stop insisting you now better then others.....
SLO you giving me a history lesson is like a blind man teaching someone to read. Really. You jump into a post defending the decision to invite Mugabe to Paris with an attack on the US. Your logic, that the US does worse so what France is doing is ok, makes no sense. Despite that your arguments are also all flawed and wrong.
The US knew from 1944 that they were in an arms race with the USSR. Why do you think both tried so hard to capture the V-2 rocket factories and the advanced Luftwaffe jet factories?
I could stop there but let me comment on your asinine comment about Werner Von Braun. He was a scientist. He did not decide to use his rockets, he not pick the targets for his rockets, he did not launch his rockets. Do you blame the designer of the gun when it is used in a murder? Or more importantly does any court (since you may but no court would).
Labor for V-2 production became a pressing problem in 1943. In April Arthur Rudolph, chief engineer of the Peenemünde factory, learned of the availability of concentration camp prisoners, enthusiastically endorsed their use, and helped win approval for their transfer.
Thus it was Aril Arthur not Von Braun that started the slave labour program.
The first prisoners began working in June. Hitler's concern for V-2 development after July 1943 peaked the interest of Heinrich Himmler, the commander of the SS, who conspired to take control of the rocket program and research activities at Peenemünde as a means to expand his power base. When Dornberger and von Braun resisted his advances, the SS arrested von Braun, charging that he had tried to sabotage the V-2 program. Himmler cited as evidence remarks that von Braun had made at a party suggesting developing the V-2 for space travel after the war. Dornberger's intercession won von Braun's release, but Himmler had made his point. Von Braun's defenders cite his arrest as proof of his differences with the Nazi Party and his distance from the use of slave labor.
Von Braun did not even work with slave laborers. He was in R and D. He was not responsible for production of the rockets where the slave laborers worked.
In interviews after the war, when von Braun and other Peenemünde veterans had risen to responsible positions in the American space program, accusations regarding their role in the Mittelwerk slave labor production rose occasionally. Responding to charges leveled by former inmates of the Dora-Ellrich concentration camps in the mid-1960s, von Braun gave his most detailed response. He admitted that he had indeed visited Mittelwerk on several occasions, summoned there in response to attempts by Mittelwerk management to hasten the V-2 into production. He insisted that his visits lasted only hours, or at most one or two days, and that he never saw a prisoner beaten, hanged, or otherwise killed.
So in conclusion. Inviting Mugabe to Paris and treating him like visiting royalty is an affront to the intelligence of any citizen with any regard for human rights. Justifying the actions of France by comparing them to the US rocket program is not only irrelevant, your facts are untrue as well.
