These planes should be in AH2

[MRPLUTO]

Esme has some excellent suggestions.  But I still think the B-24 has a role to fill in AH.  Its heavier bombload than the B-17 and better defensive armament than the Lancaster would be useful.

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I don't want to see Korean war era planes in AH.

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Check out my recent post, "Why the P-61 Will Be a Disappointment".  Not saying we shouldn't have it, just that it's a big, slow target (except for the C model, of which about 40 were made).  It was designed as a night interceptor, something not needed in AH, since all planes have neon icons over them at night.

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[MrWimpy]

Korean War era would be ok, IF it was kept to a seperate arena.

[akak]

Originally posted by MrWimpy
Korean War era would be ok, IF it was kept to a seperate arena.

Which I believe HiTech said he would never add.  One reminder about adding night fighters to AH would be the problems with modeling their onboard radar.


ack-ack

[Aub]

I think all WW2 planes should be in AH

[MrWimpy]

I think all MAJOR types of WWII planes that saw action should be in AH2.  There are some that never saw action.  There are some that saw action, but in very limited numbers.

I also think the Ground vehicle list needs some expansion.  Like adding the T34, and the Sherman in their various models.

But, like everyone else, that's just my opinion. :-)

[J_A_B]

Heh heh Ack-Ack.  That brings me to a different point:

In the Main Arena of AH2 (AH Classic), there should be no single target to wipe out a country's entire radar.  Instead there should be a number of radar stations scattered around the terrain, each of which would provide local radar coverage.  CV radar should naturally be essentially undestroyable (unless of course carriers and cruisers and such are modeled with full damage models).  

Not only would this eliminate the "oddness" of  having CV radar go out when a build on land is destroyed, it'd provide a strat target which would be worth hitting that, at the same time, wouldn't majorly harm the gameplay of people 200 virtual miles away.

I'd also say that, at the very least, sector sounters (bar dar) should ALWAYS be fully available in the tower, and in flight for about 1 sector around your present position in the future Main Arena (this would be absent or configurable in the "Mission Arena").  The counters are simply too important of a tool to be made totally unavailable (plus those who don't like that feature will mostly be flying in the Mission Arena anyway).  

A "radar station" strat object would also benefit the "mission arena" in that terrains could be built with better control as to range and limits of radar coverage, along with having important historical targets made available.

J_A_B

[Furball]

thought u wanted b29?

[Sakai]

Originally posted by MrWimpy
According to my information, yes, it did serve in WWII.  Something like over 1,000 of all HE-177 variants were produced.

Well, kind of but not really.

I think like 700 were shipped to the Russian front to use as cannon platforms because they wouldn't bomb with them and the plane was basically detested by the Germans after years of trying to make it work.  The design was horribly flawed and they only made 1000 because they could, not because it was an effective bomber.  It was possibly Germany's stupidest WWII aviation move (that and delaying the 262 fighter development ot make it useful as a divebomber).   It had modest use as a missile dorpping anti ship plane, not much and not as much as the Do-217 as best I recall.  


They had, as best I can tell, one raid that was successful wit them as a bomber against industrial targets in Russia and one odd raid at london where a few of the planes in the raid that did not catch fire and turn back divebombed haphazardly and fled.  Brady has all these "what if" ideas about the 177 but basically it was the worst plane program in Germany.   If everything worked on it it flew quite nicely by all accounts but by that standard of measure we should include the two stage superchager on a 1941 P-39 model because that was the best way for it to perform.  At some point you have to say "come bloody on."


D0-217 far and away a more realistic choice.  Since this is fantasy la-la land, who cares, model the worst POS ever designed in Germany, but in a simulation striving for some representation of historical accuracy two of your three formation buddies in the Greif would be combusting sometime between engines on and a few miles from base.  

Sakai

[Nath[BDP]]

If you allied homers claim F7F, then I must raise the bar and call for a Do-335B with 2x Mk103 30mm in wings, two 20mm over cowl, and a centerline Mk112 55mm.

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by J_A_B
Heh heh Ack-Ack.  That brings me to a different point:

In the Main Arena of AH2 (AH Classic), there should be no single target to wipe out a country's entire radar.  

J_A_B

I wonder if that's a hold over from HT's and Pyro's AW days when you were able to knock out a countries radar by destroying the main base.


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[Shark88]

i hope that Ah2 at lease has the b29

[Furball]

so u can use it in H2H rooms to kill..... errr.......


who u play H2H with??!

[Desl0ck]

..the only thing AH-2 MUST have....
is a siren for the stuuuuka ..awwwrrooooooooooooooooooooo ooo!!!!!:D

[2stony]

Here's a list for you.

M4 Sherman Calliope(it's raining rockets!)
T-34/85 or SU-100
B-25("H" model w/75mm would be cool)
B-24(got to have it!)
B-29
P-39/400(death to GVs from above!)

[Sakai]

Originally posted by 2stony
Here's a list for you.

M4 Sherman Calliope(it's raining rockets!)
T-34/85 or SU-100
B-25("H" model w/75mm would be cool)
B-24(got to have it!)
B-29
P-39/400(death to GVs from above!)

Good choices, I think before I saw 3 new US bombers I would like to see the Wellington, IL-4 and SM-79 or D0-217 to kind of flesh out the sets some.  

Thing about WWII rockets, were they as effective as say a 105 mm Battery?

Also, I don't know about you but I think cannon-equipped fighters and the Il-2 already are pretty "deadly from above" on armor.  Takes about 3-4 passes to kill a panzer if you know what you are doing in an Il2.   Also, you'd think the Hurri IID would be an effective tank killer, no?

Sakai