HTC, for 1.07, can you please, PLEASE remove the inflight Radar?

[juzz]

The Catalina was AWACS? And I thought it's radar was for detecting surface ships...

[Jigster]

Don't pop their bubble Juzz.  

[Dinger]

My $.02: No plane in WWII had a readout of the precise immediate location of every plane nearby in the cockpit.  Sorry.
If you don't think "tower only" stuff will work, take a look at WB.  It works great there, and allows for a bit of sneakiness.  And, surprise surprise, people do give DAR updates to pilots in flight.  Who woulda thunk it?
Some of the best kills are GCI ones.  some of the most satisfying missions are when you trip across a bomber strike 40 miles out.  When that happens, nobody's lazy and "might get around" to organizing an intercept.  You get an interceptor force immediately.  Long range bomber strikes are more satisfying: you either avoid detection, and kick ass, or someone spots you and it's a slaughter.  As it is now, someone spots you, and it's a slaughter.  Yee-haw.

[lasse]

I agree 100% with Beefcake and Funked, turn of sector bars and inflight radar.

The way it is now, we have 2001 model radar in our 1944 model plane, and that cant be right ?

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Lasse

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[hblair]

 

Originally posted by Dinger:
My $.02: No plane in WWII had a readout of the precise immediate location of every plane nearby in the cockpit.  Sorry.
If you don't think "tower only" stuff will work, take a look at WB.  It works great there, and allows for a bit of sneakiness.  And, surprise surprise, people do give DAR updates to pilots in flight.  Who woulda thunk it?
Some of the best kills are GCI ones.  some of the most satisfying missions are when you trip across a bomber strike 40 miles out.  When that happens, nobody's lazy and "might get around" to organizing an intercept.  You get an interceptor force immediately.  Long range bomber strikes are more satisfying: you either avoid detection, and kick ass, or someone spots you and it's a slaughter.  As it is now, someone spots you, and it's a slaughter.  Yee-haw.

Well said dinger. Pretty much sums up how I feel too...

[Edbert MOL]

 

I can count on both feet and hands the number of times I've logged in and asked a question "What is going on at xxx field?" and the same number of times not gotten a reply.

Mr. T,

Have you considered joining a squad? If you have and still do not get any participation maybe you need to join a squad that understands the value of assisting each other. Just a thought.

[pugg666]

Edbert,
check Mr. T's signature

[anRky]

Bar dar is needed in the MA, and since the MA has no historical basis anyway it fits fine.  Bar dar is OK in scenarios, since it doesn't give *too* much more information than radar then could have provided, although it would be much preferable and much more immersive to have someone give radar info from the tower instead.

Dot dar, however, gives too much info away *during combat*--it's just like having another view.  It has no place, either in the MA, or in scenarios.  (Same with the plane icon showing direction and exact location on the map.)

All IMHO, of course.  

anRky

[MANDOBLE]

About enemy sector bars:

1 - Substitute the actual quadrants by hexagons.

2 - Activate enemy sector bars only on the hexagons with friendly bases and the hexagons that surround these.

3 - Refresh enemy sector bars every 10 secons on the hexagons that have friendly bases and every 20 seconds on the hexagons that surround these.

[Wlfgng]

Turn off the dar.. turn off ...

ok.. so it's been beat to death.

It is still a great idea and one that would make the MA less of a bang-fest.

[Jayhawk]

  First.....I would have to agree with Mark Luper. When a post to change a feature or a "out of the box" idea is posted a very few select group of players seem to pounce on the poster. Everyone knows who they are. Yes you are entitled to your opinion, but you might try some civility and politeness. Its so easy to be rude and disrespectful when your not in person. Please this is a public board and your Gestapo attitude gives the game a bad name in the eyes of new players and potential players. With online friends like you who needs enemies?

  Now for the radar debate....hblair, funked and all ex WB's I too miss the WB style of radar and agree with you 1000%. I remember the Point Blank scenario that the radar played a big part in it. It was great. I do agree the the modern ATC type setup we have now takes all of the surprize out of the game. I if I do remember we had at least 6 fields through ver 1.01 then went to eight fields in WB. I never had a problem finding a fight. I would wish we could remove the inflight dot dar. Leave the BarDar above 300 feet. Its the inflight dot dar that jacks things up. Its a gameplay concession that is not needed. Look you have in tower radar and neon Icons while inflight. Currently no SA is needed until your in a fight with multiple cons. There is no chance for surprize. Hell if your gona leave the inflight dot dar on why not just add the CV to it so you know where its at all the time.

  HiTech PLEASE consider your old radar setup from your last project. I miss it.

[Mighty1]

I would have to agree about turning off in-flight dar.

Having sector bars in-flight is one thing but  dots are another.

And YES I do beleive we would have some people who would sit in the tower and give out info. Just like in WB when someone dies they will give dar reports.

[Dago]

Sure, there wasnt inflight radar in WW2.  This isn't WW2, its a game/sim whatever you want to call it.

In WW2, fighters often flew hours and hours, mission after mission without finding an enemy, never having a fight.  

Q:How many players in AH would be content to do that?

A: NONE

How many times have I heard guys ask with great dissapointment "no dar?" when the enemy had knocked out all radar? Plenty.

I would support tower radar only, it's what we had in Warbirds, and it often resulted in someone sitting in the tower giving directions and enemy sightings out to his countrymates.  It worked well enough, and fostered a spirit of teamwork.

I don't mind the current radar situation either, sometimes nobody wants to sit in a tower to supply info, plus some times the numbers are so low nobody will be available to man the tower.

I really dont think inflight dar takes away from the game much, and it does help us find the action we want quickly and convieniently.

Stick with it as it is, or tower only, but dont eliminate it.

Dago

[This message has been edited by Dago (edited 05-04-2001).]

[SirLoin]

I'm all for trying without dot-dar.Keep sector bars for A/C 300/500 ft above terrain.Vehicles should not show on bar.Worth trying for a tour anyways..<S!>

[Lizard3]

Why do people feel the need to post using an alias to on online flightsim alias? Seems a tad tarded to me.

-L3