A Community Vote On The La-7

[akak]

Originally posted by Noctilux
I believe two things:

1.  No self-respecting AH pilot flies the La-7 regularly and considers himself "good."

I know of at least one La-7 pilot that is pretty good, he's really the only one I have troubles with.  I'll keep his name out of it, don't want to swell his head even more than it is  

And as for the notion that a certain plane automatically makes the one flying it good, that's utter nonsense.  A plane doesn't know ACM or tactics, it just does what the pilot tells it to.

2.  Only a small fraction of the pilots who fly the La-7 often ever actually heard of the La-7 before they played Aces High.

More hogwash.  Most of the veteran players are and have been WWII aviation fanatics for years, it's how some of them found games like this.  

So with those two things in mind: perk it - about 5-10 perks.  This way, only those actually serious about the plane will really fly it.

That's just another whine from someone that has difficulty in fighting against the La-7.


Ack-Ack

[cobia38]

whats a perk ???

[Noctilux]

Originally posted by SlapShot
Prior to starting in AH about a year ago, I had only known about a handfull of the planes that are offered and I am probably not in the minority in this category.

...and...

Originally posted by akak
Most of the veteran players are and have been WWII aviation fanatics for years, it's how some of them found games like this.

I think you guys should maybe duel this out in C-47s to see who's right!

[straffo]

Originally posted by Noctilux
Yes, the vast majority of it in ... the La-7!  Bravo, well done.    This, sir, is not a challenge.

having a 46 Kd in ship gunner is not a challenge either

[Tilt]

I enjoy flying the La 7.......

I enjoy fighting La 7's

Historically there may be an arguement for perking the 3 cannon option........ but that is not how the perk system seems to be used......... it does not have an unbalancing effect. (except upon the minds of its repeated victims)

I have the same trouble with niki's

[straffo]

Tilt I'm sorry to have bring your name here
Please accept my apologies.

[eddiek]

Don't perk it.
Leave the 152 perked, or we'll be seeing them all over the place.  Maybe lower the perk price a bit, but if for no other reason than the rarity of the plane in RL, it should stay perked IMO.
Perking the Spit14 confuses me, but leave it perked.  
Same with the F4U-4.....faster than the others, but that is about all I've seen in it that is "better" than the U-1 and U-1D.
While you're at it, perk the 109G10....climbs as well as the Spit14, comparable top speed, it just won't turn with one (I think....haven't flown the Spit14 that much and have never encountered a 109 when I was flying one).

[BlauK]

I would not perk it (unless other similar planes mentioned earlier were also perked), but I would really like to see its high altitude performance lowered to a more "realistic" level.

[Shane]

Originally posted by Noctilux
Yes, the vast majority of it in ... the La-7!  Bravo, well done.    This, sir, is not a challenge.

you're the one who started waving your donut around. i just showed you it's short comings.

[hogenbor]

Perk La-7, Fw-190D-9, Me-109G-10, P51-D

Yes I mean that.

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by BlauK
I would not perk it (unless other similar planes mentioned earlier were also perked), but I would really like to see its high altitude performance lowered to a more "realistic" level.

La-7's high altitude performance is good?  I think you need to put down that crack pipe.  La-7's performance drops off noticably at 16,000ft and even more so above 20,000ft.


Ack-Ack

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Taiaha
I'm with straffo and BNM: Yawn.

There is no issue here.  The LA7 is mostly flown by people who are either a) learning and suck, or b) suck permanently and are trying to pretend they don't.  When I first started playing AH I used to think they were "unbeatable" and "uber", but I've been chewing them up regular of late, so don't really give a toss if they are perked or not!

DON'T CARE.

When I'm in an Ostie, you ain't toejam.  I'll kill you anyways.

I strictly use the Pony for jabo (rare), BnZ's are for rutabagas.

The Dora sucks almost as bad, I like the A-8, it will chew a town to pieces in a few passes.

Karaya2

[Tilt]

Originally posted by straffo
Tilt I'm sorry to have bring your name here
Please accept my apologies.

NP actually I did not notice my name elsewhere  untill long after I had posted.........


FWIW  I am very medi ocre.........  my 3 dimensional visualistion of combat stinks.......   1 in every 3 out of plain manouvers ends up with me totally losing it .......angles wise.......

and I keep doing dumb things....... over and over again..... I have even heard my self saying

"this is a dumb thing .......I shouldn't be doing this" and somewhere else there is this subliminal personna saying "but may this time you'll get lucky"   its like jumping off a cliff to see if this time it won't hurt...........


On top of this I am a lousey shot........ Shift will vouch for this...on the odd occasion all else goes right, I've have the bogie banged to rights, squeeze it off and ........... nothing....... how many times Shift has peered over my shoulder and shook his head in disbelief?  well more than I care to admit.........

Cos these days he also chides me to fly a "proper" plane

On top of this I still struggle with these foot pedals...... but I will endeavour to persevere because its fun......


I do like the La7........ I like the La5 FN and the Yak but if there is a big red dar bar in the next sector and I am alone then I'll take the 7.

I have had a long affinity with the 7. All the data i have on the 7 was amassed because Kesmai held out the hope of its introduction at one time in AW........ it didnt happen. So when the 7 came here I rejoiced........and still do.

Is the 7 so uber? not really, you can always stay safe in one, you can always stay safe in a pony or even a tiffie. Staying safe is about controlling risk....... you will note from the above that my "subliminal personna" will not permit this.

Does it unbalance game play......not really...... not like 20 tiffies all jabo'd up and clearing a field   20 la 7's could never do this so effectively.  

Should it be perked? well I've given my view above.

[TimRas]

QUOTE]Originally posted by Urchin

While it is perfectly clear that the La-7 does possess superior performance vis a vis any other nonperked plane... [/QUOTE]

This is not clear to me at all. The LA-7 has only the best deck speed. Above 7.5K 190D-9, 109G-10, P-51 are faster, above 12K Yak-9U and P-47 are also faster, above 23K Spit IX is faster. 109G-10 can outclimb it at any altitude, 109G-2 above 4K, 109F-4, D-9 and Spit V and IX above 7K, P-51 above 19K and even P-47 above 24K. The 109G-10 has better acceleration above 10K, D-9 has better speed retention above 10K. Fw's and F-4U's have better roll rates at any speed.

The weaknesses of the LA-7 are mediocre armament, limited ammo and bad visibility on your six.

[straffo]

So why the hell are you not in your "full mediocrity mode" when I'm near ?

Or is it because I've acheived a  better mediocrity level ?

I love the "jumping of a cliff" image it's often used by my second personnality