There is no evidence I could post on a BBS that would convince some of the people here. I think Saddam could presonally drive up to the house of some posters with a truckload of anthrax in bags with his picture and personal signature on each one and it would be discounted as evidence.
I've had enough "proof" to convince me from folks that I personally know, worked with and trust. This will not suffice for you.
However, I think this war is going down no matter what any of us think or do, so I'm willing to make you a wager. I believe my statement will be proven within a year of removing Saddam from power. It may be proven when chem weapons are used on the invading troops. It may be proven after the conflict when bunkers of the stuff are found and destroyed.
So, how bout $45 that it's shown they had such weapons within a year of Saddam's removal? If I win, you pay the AH bill for a squaddie of mine that's over there now in Special Forces for threee months.
If I lose, I'll pay $45 to any AH account you name or send it to the legitimate charity of your choice in your name.
Bet?
Are you trying to say it depends on the meaning of is is?
No, not at all. I could never lie to someone's face in that way. I'll leave that to your heros.
I'm saying that yes, Israel is in violation. Bush has signaled that the Palestinian issue will be addressed in concert with the rehabilitation of Iraq after the regime change. So, that's down the road for me. As I said, if you do a search you'll easily find my position on Israel and the UN SC resolutions. It's no different than my position on Iraq.
The question before the SC and the entire world right now is Iraq and war.
I find it laughable that you're willing to totally ignore the DEATH caused by Saddam in his own country yet find the US losing the "moral high ground" without killing anyone at all. You seem to find a spartan prison in Gitmo, where there is adequate, religiously appropriate food and clean, suitable resting facilities and NO TORTURE more morally offensive than an Iraqi prison system where people are systematically tortured and starved in completely barbaric cells.
That's the basic problem I have with almost all your arguments. You're willing to ignore truly evil crap by Iraq to overemphasize some basically innocuous thing the US does and then vituperatively condemn the US for such "evil". Gitmo is a spartan prison system but it isn't inhumane in the least.
Same with the Chinese; there's NOTHING the US is doing in the "Patriot Act" that doesn't pale in comparison to standard Chinese operating procedure. Yet you're willing to overlook that.
Your CIA article deals solely with Halabja.
The Human Rights Watch 13 Chapter report (did you even read it?) details an Iraqi program of genocide against Iraqi Kurds that went on for years and killed between 100,000 (Saddam's executioners estimate) and 180,000 Kurds (Estimate from the Kurds themselves).
The genocide happened. Again, the evidence doesn't fit your argument so you ignore it.
...and you'll wait a long time for me to "call you names". If I were ever to break my personal stricture against ad hominem attacks, it'd be for someone who's best argument isn't thinking up cute negatively charged names for political officials.
