But Toad, some of your spin points are being refuted these days..
a. Has some serious WMD and is working on more including nukesNot according to Gen. Hussein Kamel who in 1995 told U.N. inspectors
that Iraq had DESTROYED ITS ENTIRE STOCKPILE of chemical and biological
weapons and banned missiles, as Iraq claims.
site:
http://www.msnbc.com/news/876128.aspGlen Rangwala's analysis of the Kamel transcript:
http://middleeastreference.org.uk/kamel.html1. and has near totally ignored UN sanctions for over 12 years
Not to have a double standard or anything but what does the U.S plan to do about the 65 U.N sanctions Israel has violated?
2. Even now at the last moment he's dragging his feet on disarmament and not fully cooperatingThey keep raising the bar.. he started destroying the missiles, now they want Saddam to leave the country..
b. Has already demonstrated that when the spirit moves him he WILL invade his neighboring sovereign statesNo. Last 12 years he’s been contained.
1. he's ruined agriculture to the point that 60% of Iraqis live on UN food handouts
So we should feed them cruise missile hand outs?
2. he tortures and murders his own citizens... in fact killed his own son... and will torture a child to get the parent to talk
U.S
had the moral high ground on that. See POW treatment at Gitmo-- Patriot act etc.
3. has engaged in genocide against the Kurdish minority Another spin point refuted by the CIA!.. Kurds got caught in crossfire of battle btwn Iraq and Iran.
2. Nonetheless, knowing all of these things, a few countries sitting on the UN SC refuse to acknowledge that there is a need to remove Saddam and will not sanction US action even though they're not being asked to contribute militarily
If George Bush goes ahead with this attack, he could be indicted for crimes against humanity. Sanctions could be placed on the U.S!. Bush could cause a world wide depression worse than he already has..
BTW Toad, are you familiar with "The Project For The New
American Century"? No?.. here have a look at their web site
http://www.newamericancentury.org/ PNAC's stated aims are to: "to shape a new century favorable to American principles and interests", to achieve "a foreign policy that boldly and purposefully promotes American principles abroad", "to increase defense spending significantly", and to pursue "America's unique role in preserving and extending an international order friendly to our security, our prosperity, and our principles."
Finally we get to weed out the truth from the spin. George W. Bush and the boys' wanna do is to ensure that America and American interests dominate the entire world for the foreseeable future. And what's more they make no bones of the fact that they intend to achieve this without diplomacy - that's old hat. What PNAC intend to do is enforce
the Pax Americana through military might.
So when George Bush and his gang talk about Saddam posing a "threat" to America - they don't mean he's going to drop bombs on Washington (how on earth could he without committing national suicide?) - what they mean is that he poses a threat to American military dominance in the Middle East.
In fact, do you know that President Bush's crew regard Saddam as merely an excuse for military action in the area? The PNAC Report of 2000 states:
"the United States has for decades sought to play a more permanent role in Gulf regional security. While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the
regime of Saddam Hussein."
Ah so Iraq is merely "the immediate justification" and Saddam's regime is not so important as establishing American military might in the Gulf.
Hehe forgot all those spin points Toad your talking to us now. Now you might understand why the U.N. might have some quibbles.