Fifty years

[Boroda]

50 years ago, on March, 5th, 1953,  J.V. Stalin died.

Only one comment for now: our "liberal" right-wing "democratic" politicians are enraged by the way Russian media covers this date. They are pulling out their hair and stomping their feet and ask government to immediately stop this "propaganda of stalinism". Very nice to hear this from "freedom of press" and "democracy" fighters.

[Saurdaukar]

Its all Bush's fault.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Boroda
50 years ago, on March, 5th, 1953,  J.V. Stalin died.

Only one comment for now: our "liberal" right-wing "democratic" politicians are enraged by the way Russian media covers this date. They are pulling out their hair and stomping their feet and ask government to immediately stop this "propaganda of stalinism". Very nice to hear this from "freedom of press" and "democracy" fighters.

Seems to me that there are alot of relatives still around from the millions of his own countrymen he condemned to death that would be celebrating this day, rather than mourning.

[AKIron]

Boroda, I can see how you might feel angry about oppressing "freedom of speech" especially after all those decades without it, but what do the  "democracy fighters" have to do with not wanting to celebrate Stalin?

[lazs2]

hitlers birthday isn't even a holiday in germany.   Go figure.   Seems none of the extreme totalitarian dictators who murder and torture more than a few million of their own people ever get much recognition once they are out of power.   Oh well.... you can allways have a wake in the "cell" meeting.
lazs

[funkedup]

Yeah let's celebrate Hitler Day too.  What about Pol Pot day or Idi Amin day or Ghadaffi Day?

[miko2d]

lazs2: hitlers birthday isn't even a holiday in germany.   Go figure.

 If it's a sarcastic remark to Boroda's post, I have to note that celebrating someone's death is not the same as celebrating someone's birth.

Seems none of the extreme totalitarian dictators who murder and torture more than a few million of their own people ever get much recognition once they are out of power.

 None? Oh come on... Stalin is recognised in his former empire. Boroda, are his pictures still displayed in homes and cars?

 There are still plenty of Maoists and Trotskists in the world.

 Also, how about Lincoln? Granted, tens of thousands political opponents not lynched by his thugs outright got released from jails eventually and he never got to murdering millions of civilians but it was quite a feat in those barely-industrial times. He is still celebrated quite a lot.


 Boroda - welcome to democracy. "Freedom of speech" is  demanded for oneself but denied to everyone else. Quite opposite to "free market" which is demanded for everyone else but not for oneself. Go figure...

 miko

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by miko2d
Also, how about Lincoln? Granted, tens of thousands political opponents not lynched by his thugs outright got released from jails eventually and he never got to murdering millions of civilians but it was quite a feat in those barely-industrial times. He is still celebrated quite a lot.


 miko

LOL, quite a stretch there to go for a comparison, I'll give you an 8.5 for "fallout effect" that is about to be posted afterward.

[Mini D]

I took time out to recognize the 50th aniversary of Stalin's death.  When I was peeing, I intentionally swung wide of the basin and hit the floor.  I took a moment to say "That was was for you Stalin.  Lap it up."

MiniD

[miko2d]

Ripsnort: LOL, quite a stretch there to go for a comparison, I'll give you an 8.5 for "fallout effect" that is about to be posted afterward.

 
 At least I am not going to argue this point. Whoever interested, can look here King Lincoln Archive and here Thomas DiLorenzo: Archives

 miko

[ra]

Very nice to hear this from "freedom of press" and "democracy" fighters.

You can bet if Stalin were still around you wouldn't have these problems.

ra

[Cobra]

Originally posted by ra
You can bet if Stalin were still around you wouldn't have these problems.

ra

hehe...Irony is so Ironic.

Cobra

[Animal]

diddly Stalin, if there is a hell, I hope hes burning there.

[lazs2]

Lincolns birthday is not celebrated anymore in the U.S.  the only human in the entire U.S. or world history who we feel is worthy of a holiday is.... martin luther king.

miko... hilers death is not given much of a holiday either.   As for my remark about recognition... well... that was in context to what boroda said  and as such... accurate.   the birth and death of totalitarian dictators who slaughter millions of their people is not given much recognition.   as for free speech... We certainly do have it.. boroda can say anything he likes... if it is stupid or contraversial or.. simply differs from what someone else believes then... that someone else is "free" to say what they like about it.   that's kinda how it works.
lazs

[Dowding]

One of the biggest ironies about Stalin is that he created such a terror in the people who worked for him, that even when he had not emerged from his room for over 24 hours, no-one dare enter to find out the problem in case they incurred his wrath. So he laid there, in a pool of his own piss with no control over his body simply because everyone was terrified of him.

BTW, Trotsky was nothing like Stalin.