Author Topic: You guys think the LA-7 is bad HERE? (Read 2068 times)

Urchin · « **on:** March 10, 2003, 12:22:24 AM »

Think again.... ours is positively nuetered compared to IL-2's. Of course, IL-2 is a Russian game, but jesus sweet christ... La-7 out-everythings a 190D9 or 109K4 with ease. Turns about twice as well as it does in AH, outclimbs the K4 no sweat.. I know it is a Russian game and all.... but man oh man.

Batz · « **Reply #1 on:** March 10, 2003, 01:34:29 AM »

Damn no matter where ya go theres an el gay 7 whine

moose · « **Reply #2 on:** March 10, 2003, 02:40:22 AM »

ha ah ah hahah ah ahhaha haha

AGJV44_Rot 1 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 10, 2003, 04:09:14 AM »

That ain't no lie. LA-7 there is a UFO you can tunr roll accelerate and climb with anything. I will say this though the 190's sure are sweet. Not as sweet as the el gay 7 but they can boogie with MW-50.

Fariz · « **Reply #4 on:** March 10, 2003, 04:27:06 AM »

http://www.btinternet.com/~fulltilt/Perform.html

Kweassa · « **Reply #5 on:** March 10, 2003, 06:49:55 AM »

The AI is a head banger there. Toughest AI I've ever seen in boxed games.. You'd think they have automatic lock-on mechanism in their cockpits..

Urchin · « **Reply #6 on:** March 10, 2003, 10:30:01 AM »

Thats a neat link Fariz- that guy says the La-7 and La-5 had lower wingloading than a Spit IX though, which would mean they would out-turn a Spit IX . I'll have to look in my Spitfire book to see what the stats are in it and if they match up with this fellows website.

Ok, think I figured out the 'discrepency" - The "weight full" category corresponds roughly to the 'max overload' weight of the Spit IX, which is 9500 pounds (I assume this would be with a huge ferry tank or something), but max 'permissible' is 7,500 pounds and normal 'take-off' weight is 7,181.5 pounds. I know it is ~2.2 kg/ lb, so that'd be roughly 3,265 Kg instead of the 4,309 Kg listed for the Spit IXs weight.

Of course, the weight listed for the La-7 might be its max overload weight to, but I don't think it is.

Fariz · « **Reply #7 on:** March 10, 2003, 10:38:27 AM »

Lower for empty plane, but higher for full load.

That is Tilts site, you may ask him for the source of this information.

fd ski · « **Reply #8 on:** March 10, 2003, 11:30:34 AM »

Minimum climb time to 5000m (Nom/WEP) 4.7 / - mins 4.65/ 4.3mins

That's weird. Looks like most post 43 spitfires would easily outclimb it. I guess anything over 3km was past its prime.

I don't have numbers handy but spit 9 LF/HF and 14s would clock 20k ( 6mk+ ) in about 5 minutes or less.

wetrat · « **Reply #9 on:** March 10, 2003, 01:30:16 PM »

lol, sounds like fun

Pongo · « **Reply #10 on:** March 10, 2003, 01:50:42 PM »

First fight I tried in FB was a 3 gun La7 vs a Hog d22 with an average pilot
He beat me easy!
So I was a little more carefull next time and it took me maybe 40 seconds after the merge to get him
Then I noticed that my throttle was set up wrong and was only going to 64%.

honda346 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 10, 2003, 03:10:06 PM »

The fact is the LA-7 WAS better at most things than most planes so it isn't a big deal really... you could argue a tweak here and there but I would think having both Aces and FB giving it the edge would be decent evidence for the common man...

I suck at dogfighting so it wouldn't matter for me anyway... as evidenced by AGJV44 shooting me down last night pretty easily in that Dora while I was in a P-47... Different game... same result...

For that matter I think a P-40 got me while in an LA-7! lol

Now you want to talk Uber... the AAA in FB is even more deadly than Aces... I watched a bomber completely come apart at long range and if you plan on straffing the field you'd better be doing at least 600mph!

F4UDOA · « **Reply #12 on:** March 10, 2003, 03:11:04 PM »

Pongo,

2 questions.

1. Are you talking about IL2 FB (Forgotten Battles)?

2. Hog-D22? Is the a F4U-1D or a P-47D?

Shamus · « **Reply #13 on:** March 10, 2003, 03:19:52 PM »

Never thought the la7 was that bad here

shamus

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #14 on:** March 10, 2003, 03:21:49 PM »

Hog D-22 must mean P47D22 as there is no F4U in FB at this time. And I seem to recall Republic fighters had a seies of "-hog" nicknames leading right up to the A10 Warthog.