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Offline AKIron

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« on: March 12, 2003, 08:27:53 AM »
What are these folks thinking? Do they believe we shouldn't have a military or that they are above serving? Maybe some of you Californians have some insight?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,80834,00.html
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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2003, 08:31:15 AM »
What they are doing is not beneath the law:

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An amendment to the Elementary and Secondary Education Act requires public high schools to give military recruiters the names and phone numbers of juniors and seniors — unless their parents say no. If school officials don’t provide the information, they risk losing millions of federal dollars.

But the San Francisco and Los Angeles school districts are engaged in an active campaign to let parents know they have the right to decline.


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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2003, 08:46:57 AM »
I knew it wasn't illegal. I'm just wondering why they are "engaged in an active campaign."
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2003, 08:53:09 AM »
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I'm just wondering why they are "engaged in an active campaign."


"But the San Francisco and Los Angeles school districts are engaged in an active campaign...."

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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2003, 09:18:17 AM »
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I knew it wasn't illegal. I'm just wondering why they are "engaged in an active campaign."


(Shrugs) They're anti-war at any cost..even if war was about to waged against them, they'd still be anti-war, thats why there are others in this country with common sense that will protect them at all costs.  NO one likes war, but there are those that know that War is inevitable if you want enjoy your liberty.

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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2003, 09:25:31 AM »
Well, can we put a fence around 'em like a zoo, for their own protection of course.
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« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2003, 10:09:37 AM »
This just shows they are lost in the 60s, jeez, I hate that damn City, it is by far the most overated place on earth.

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« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2003, 11:54:39 AM »
mayby the partriot act will let you strip their citizenship and then you can make them wear stars.


bite it, they have the right you are now whining.


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« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2003, 12:05:49 PM »
They (the guys) still have to register with selective service when they turn 18. Have to write down your name and address (pretty sure, else I couldn't have gotten my notification of receipt card)...

And not registering with selective service is illegal, so what are the parents going to do about that?
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« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2003, 12:15:04 PM »
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Originally posted by lord dolf vader
mayby the partriot act will let you strip their citizenship and then you can make them wear stars.


bite it, they have the right you are now whining.


aint it great


Tell me what rights you lost under the patriot act ldf.

I was joking about the fence in case it was too subtle for ya.
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« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2003, 12:38:40 PM »
I don't see any problem with the parents being given information on how to prevent their kids personal info from being given to ANY type of employment recruiter.

The fact that the school districts have decided to make the parents aware of their legal rights should be commended IMO.

As for the exclusion of recruiters from schools, if they excluded all business it might be palitable but it wouldn't serve the kids properly since they wouldn't be given the opportunity to gather info on carreers that they may not have persued on their own.

So, it comes down to a few simple but emotional principles...

Do you want the gvmt to have access to your kids personal info w/o restrictions at all, or

Do you want the parents to be able to say who gets personal info on their kids.

Big intrusive government

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A parents right to choose

These are two basic differences that BOTH sides have fought for or against when the other party is trying to force one or the other on them.

BTW, I jioned the ARMY after visiting a recruiter at the JC I was attending, before the draft.

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« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2003, 12:57:21 PM »
I think I can speak for more than a few here... There are in fact certain types "we'd" consider unwelcome in the military in the first place.  Young'uns raised by parents who hate the military... oh sure we REALLY want THEM joining the ranks.  Not that they couldn't hack it or even be assets... more of the old "Follow and ugly kid home and you'll find ugly parents" kind of thing.
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« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2003, 01:22:02 PM »
I'm starting a porn film company. I need 18 year old girls and seeing as its all voluntary and we fearture american flag in EVERY movie ( we're so patriotic ), I hereby request to be send name, phone and picture of every female turning 18 from your local highschool !!!

Seriously now...
Last i checked almost all profesions in US as volutanry, why are the other businesses discriminated against and not provide same info so that they can compete ?

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« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2003, 01:26:21 PM »
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Seriously now...
Last i checked almost all profesions in US as volutanry, why are the other businesses discriminated against and not provide same info so that they can compete ?


I'm sure you realize the difference between a voluntary armed force and a business, right? We will have a military whether it's voluntary or not. You would like to keep it voluntary, right?
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« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2003, 07:04:18 PM »
actually i think everyone should go for a year or two.
I did my 4 and looking at my class mates in university i feel most of them would benefit from couple of years in the "University of Life" :)