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« on: March 12, 2003, 09:47:36 AM »
Does America need a Department of Exercise?
Tuesday, March 4, 2003 Posted: 6:56 PM EST (2356 GMT)  


WASHINGTON (AP) -- America's flabby population needs a federal Department of Exercise, a recreation researcher believes.

A high-level federal agency could direct and coordinate state, local and private efforts to get people more active, said Lynn Jamieson of Indiana University.

"We are in a crisis with a lack of controls," said Jamieson, an associate professor of recreation. "We are lacking a policy."

America needs a physical activity equivalent of the U.S. Department of Education, because the Department of Health and Human Services isn't up to the job, Jamieson said. A spokesman for HHS Secretary Tommy Thompson disputed that.

In at least 100 countries, a national agency funds and coordinates activities from walking trails to elite athletics, said Jamieson, who studies how communities organize athletics. America is far less centralized, leaving exercise to varied initiatives by government agencies and private volunteer groups.

Federal statistics say about 60 percent of American adults are not regularly active, and about 25 percent are not active at all.

Current federal initiatives have recommendations but no penalty for failure, so state and local programs are good in some areas but poor in others, Jamieson said.

For instance, programs of the President's Council on Physical Activity and Sports are voluntary. Even the council's best-known program, the school-based President's Challenge fitness tests, must be purchased by schools, "and no one has to do it," Jamieson said.

Initiatives by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention are implemented through limited amounts of competitive grants, so programs might not get funding even if they meet the initiatives' requirements, Jamieson said.

In contrast, countries such as Australia have a minister of sports and an organizational structure to foster physical activity, said Jamieson, who spent two years studying Australia's system.

Tax dollars fund the Australian Sports Commission, an agency under the minister for sports. The commission encourages Australians to go out and play games, said Shirley Willis, manager of sports programs.

"We try to hit the fun message more than the fat message," Willis said. "What we've discovered is you cannot bludgeon people into feeling guilty. You can't shame people into being active because they are fat."

The commission provides funds for sports big and small, Willis said. Much of the commission's work is to create new customers for sports, including sports that don't get much attention, Willis said.

For instance, the commission provided seed money for Australian football's development of a kid-sized version of the game, helps to set up athletics programs for after-school care facilities. It even has people take portable skateboard ramps into the sparsely populated rural areas that Australians call "the Bush," to show kids who have never skateboarded how it's done, Willis said.

The commission also helps to set up in-school programs; in Australia, health and physical education must be taught in every school, Willis said.

In Washington, a spokesman for HHS Secretary Thompson, Tony Jewell, said Thompson is directing an effort to coordinate federal health and fitness programs that historically had worked separately. Thompson is insisting that the agencies work together, Jewell said.

As for Jamieson, "The good professor has not been paying attention to what Secretary Thompson has done in the past two years," Jewell said.

The federal Steps to a Healthier US initiative included $25 million for community-based pilot projects in fiscal 2003, and has a $125 million proposal for the coming budget year, Jewell said.

However, one U.S. expert doubts that a top-down approach would work in the United States.

"That's not our model for anything," said Judy Young, executive director of the National Association for Sport and Physical Education, a physical education professional group. Many Americans would agree that people need to be more physically active but would balk at having Washington give them orders on how to do it, she said.

What America needs is a change of individual attitudes, Young said. Even where Americans have abundant opportunities to exercise, such as walking on sidewalks or trails, they often don't use them, she said.

America's problem is in making exercise as normal a part of life as brushing teeth, Young said. "I just came back from the Netherlands -- even on bad days, they are playing field hockey, and when it's 20 degrees, they ride their bikes," she said.

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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2003, 09:48:57 AM »
Just put a sales tax on food. That way you might be able to pay for a brand shiny new war and live happily ever after. :D
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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2003, 09:56:57 AM »
Less television, fewer video games, decreased use of automobiles, and better diet would help, but who's going to stop that?  Certainly not the government.  I guess if one good thing comes from high gas prices it would be a decreased tendency for people to drive their cars as recreation on weekends.

Maybe there should be a law against owning couches and reclining chairs.

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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2003, 10:06:22 AM »
maybe they should award perk points for walking to work, which can later be redeemed for a nice car which can be kept till you hit something with it.

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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2003, 12:38:52 PM »
Fat people have fat kids, because they don't know how to eat right.  Being obese is no way to live.  No reason for it.  

Ground beef is 50% fat.  Your gonna have to run alot of freaking miles to burn off a hamburger.  Weight lifting barely burns any fat at all.  

I remember my parents fixing fried hamburger and deep fried french fries every night for supper.  Its a wonder I'm not 300 pounds now.  Discovered running my junior year in high school.  Didn't lose much weight because I was always pretty skinny, but I did learn how to eat right.  

I'll take brown rice over steak any day.  And if you know whats good for you, so will you.

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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2003, 01:00:54 PM »
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Originally posted by davidpt40

Ground beef is 50% fat.   Weight lifting barely burns any fat at all.  

 


If you don't know what the hell you're talking about you shouldn't post stupid bellybutton statements like these.

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« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2003, 01:04:56 PM »
50% fat?
LOL, lets make soap out of it.

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« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2003, 01:08:02 PM »
where do you buy your beef, davidpt40? the local supermarket has 9%.

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« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2003, 01:17:28 PM »
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Originally posted by hawk220
where do you buy your beef, davidpt40? the local supermarket has 9%.


And that is a lot.
50% fat ground beef would look like a brownish-yellow translucent blob of crap that only the most hardcore self destructive fatties would eat.

I know SOB would buy it.

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« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2003, 02:43:42 PM »
Yea, where do you get this 50% fat ground beef? The best I can find is only 25%. I’m gettin ripped off!

On a serious note, the American kids in school now are expected to be the first in US history to have a shorter life expectancy than their parents. 25% are obese (twice the rate of several generations ago) and only 1 in 4 get even the minimum amount of recommended exercise. SDS (sedentary death syndrome) will kill more Americans than Al Queda could ever dream of.
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« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2003, 02:52:35 PM »
High school P.E. classes should include one hour of Karate, twice a week.  It's great exercise, and there would be fewer fights between classes.

People would have respect for each other, enjoy doing homework, and learn to live together.

The Principal of the school could be Japanese...and no one would dare to get out of line.

Altogether, it would make for a better school system.



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« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2003, 02:56:48 PM »
myelo: On a serious note, the American kids in school now are expected to be the first in US history to have a shorter life expectancy than their parents. 25% are obese (twice the rate of several generations ago) and only 1 in 4 get even the minimum amount of recommended exercise. SDS (sedentary death syndrome) will kill more Americans than Al Queda could ever dream of.

 Those who worry about their and their children weight are not fat - and if they still are, the government would not be able to help them anyway. Those who are fat do not worry about ther weight or a couple years it knocks off their life expectancy. So where is the problem?

 Or does Lynn Jamieson believe that americans are some kind of a cattle herd and she has rights or obligations to manipulate and "improve" it? And if private persuasion and education does not work, let government coerce the people into her standards?

 She wants lean people all around her and a lot of government coersion, let her live in North Korea for a while.

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« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2003, 02:59:55 PM »
Leslie: High school P.E. classes should include one hour of Karate, twice a week.

 That would contradict the curent policy of feminisation and emasculation of american boys.
 You could probably persuade them to do it for girs, at least - considering how the males are rapists, etc.

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« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2003, 03:19:28 PM »
I knew a girl who was a White Belt.  She studied for about six months.

One night, a would-be rapist woke her up by sitting on top of her in her bed.  He had a knife.  She said to herself, "This is not going to happen to me."  She got the guy off her and actually kicked him out of the window using a side thrust kick.

This is not unusual for six months training.

One guy was harrassed by another man on the road (road rage incident.)  He pulled over and the man attacked him.  The boy laid him out over the hood of the car with a punch.

Another guy pulled over to help someone who he thought was stranded on the side of the road.  Turns out the stranded fellow had an accomplice, and they attacked him with a chain.  He defended himself and sent them running.




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« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2003, 03:27:54 PM »
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Originally posted by gofaster
Less television, fewer video games, decreased use of automobiles, and better diet would help, but who's going to stop that?  Certainly not the government.  I guess if one good thing comes from high gas prices it would be a decreased tendency for people to drive their cars as recreation on weekends.

Maybe there should be a law against owning couches and reclining chairs.


And furthermore, high school PE should include 30 minutes of running 4 times a week, with Wednesdays as the "off" days.