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Offline AKIron

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« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2003, 07:59:58 PM »
I agree fd ski, two years wouldn't hurt anyone but would do many a great deal of good.
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« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2003, 08:45:14 PM »
yup. 'service to the country' is a good thing. it dosent need to be the military. theres many ways to serve the nation.
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« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2003, 08:49:10 PM »
well it might do alot some good but it hurts more.


its a killing machine. with expendable parts.

Offline Frogm4n

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« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2003, 10:00:18 PM »
the recruiters are just as bad as telemarket's. are they not passing a law against those guys? every \night at dinner my senoir year some love muffin military recruiter trying to make his quota bothered me. they are no better then someone trying to sell me long distance.

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« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2003, 10:55:39 PM »
Simple solution... lower the federal taxes and stop federal subsidy. If the states want to increase tax to make up the difference, let it be their choice.

Yes... the answer is less government.


See, I told you I wasn't a democrat. :)
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Offline AKIron

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« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2003, 10:59:22 PM »
They've called here a few times, before my youngest joined the reserves, no biggie, wasn't irritating to me. I understand the need to have a defense for our rights, especially that right to free speech so many here are so fond of claiming.

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« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2003, 11:01:55 PM »
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Simple solution... lower the federal taxes and stop federal subsidy. If the states want to increase tax to make up the difference, let it be their choice.

Yes... the answer is less government.


See, I told you I wasn't a democrat. :)


Dunno about democrat but they'll definitely have your liberal card for that. ;)
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« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2003, 02:18:44 AM »
When I was in high school back in 1974, I had a draft card, soon as I turned 18.  It was a normal thing, it was the law, and every male my age had one.  


I wasn't one of the draft card burners.  Most of the guys my age kept ours, and would have served if called.  Fortunately for me, the Vietnam War ended at that time, and I didn't have to go.  My friend Dave joined the Army in 1975 for Ranger training.  He said, if he was going to fight in war, he wanted to be able to survive.  He volunteered to carry a rock 24 hours a day for six weeks.  He carried that rock everywhere he went...in the shower, to bed, to chow, in his Alice gear on hikes.  It weighed 20 pounds.

When he became a Ranger, he graduated second in a class of about 300.  


We have drank whisky and beer together many times.  Dave is one of my best friends...since 1983.  He used to tell me about his Ranger training, he specialized in maps.  Hunting in the woods with Dave, you wouldn't have to worry about getting lost, even going to the stand in the dark.  


Dave trained in Panama and told me about an 18' Bushmaster snake that he walked under...it was directly in the path at night, hanging over a branch, and hissing loudly.  He broke the rules and shined a flashlight at it and saw it.  Six feet up, six feet over, and six feet down.  He didn't see the head, but he figured it would be about the size of a small dog's head.  I think that almost freaked him out.  He also said he thought he heard a panther walking through the woods directly toward where he was on lookout.  He said only two things in the woods sound like a man walking (besides a man)...one of them is a panther.  Can't remember what the other one is (armadillo?).

Dave made over 80 parachute jumps, about 40 of them at night.  He broke his back one time when his chute didn't open properly, and got tangled up in another man's chute.


He went on training missions in Alaska, wearing white camo and dropped off by helicopter.


He was in a foxhole on a training exercise, with a Vulcan cannon mounted on a truck about 20 feet away...he says he has trouble even today with his hearing.  He said that was the absolute worst pain he ever experienced, as it went on for a very long time, and there was no way to get away from it.


One day his commanding officer said he had to let him go.  He was too badly injured to carry on, due to the broken back and broken legs from other jumps.  


Salute to Dave and all who serve our country!



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« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2003, 02:48:44 AM »
I found it odd that even though I was a cadet at the AF Academy, I still had to fill out the selective service card when I turned 18.  But I filled it out, no big deal.  The funny part was when I would go home on leave around Christmas and some Navy recruiter would call trying to convince me to enlist.  They really don't know what to say when they get to the end of their schpeil and you say, "Gee, I'd love to, but I'm currrently a cadet in the Air Force Academy."  I think the only response I ever got was just, "Oh."