Author Topic: Islam Is Peace! (Read 1521 times)

hawk220 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 15, 2003, 12:07:10 PM »

it may be peace, but can't give a haircut worth a damn!

BUG_EAF322 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 15, 2003, 12:13:54 PM »

Scary

Tumor · « **Reply #3 on:** March 15, 2003, 12:23:43 PM »

Yaright.

Chairboy · « **Reply #4 on:** March 15, 2003, 12:25:53 PM »

Hey funkedup, why not post a thread called 'Christianity is peace' or 'Judaism is peace' with a picture of someone being circumcised? That'd a barbaric, bloody ritual that actually happens all the time, but nobody ever says anything about it...

funkedup · « **Reply #5 on:** March 15, 2003, 12:32:32 PM »

Are you really trying to compare some barbarian cutting up his kid with a sword to a surgical procedure performed by a doctor which has well documented health benefits?

Chairboy · « **Reply #6 on:** March 15, 2003, 12:34:27 PM »

Examining the claim of medical benefits of circumcision:

http://www.circumcision.org/benefits.htm

Excerpt:

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Our science is affected by our cultural values. Circumcision reflects a cultural value, and a principal method for preserving cultural values is to disguise them as truths that are based on scientific research. This “research” can then be used to support medical practices. This explains the claimed medical “benefits” of circumcision.

Blind acceptance of science and belief in “objective” reality is imprudent. There is no such thing as objective observation, because observations are made by people who have inherent theories and expectations about how things should be. Studies defending circumcision make this clear by ignoring vital information (such as the functions of the foreskin) that conflicts with observations, results, and conclusions.

Because it is unnecessary surgery, the burden of proof in the circumcision debate rests with those who advocate it. They must show that it is both safe and effective. Neither has been demonstrated.

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BUG_EAF322 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 15, 2003, 12:34:33 PM »

Show some christianity in dublin too please.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #8 on:** March 15, 2003, 12:36:16 PM »

The muslims also do circumscison you know chairboy.. So please get pff you high horse if you dont know what ur taliking about. But of cousre that wouldnt serve your purpose of self hating west bashing.

BTW what exactly is that guy doin to the kid in the picture and why?

Chairboy · « **Reply #9 on:** March 15, 2003, 12:40:24 PM »

I'm not defending Muslims, I'd attacking the idea that Muslims are any more barbaric then Christians, Jews, or the rest of the religions.

Chairboy · « **Reply #10 on:** March 15, 2003, 12:43:12 PM »

Self hating west bashing? Since I'm not Christian, Jewish or Muslim, how does that work exactly?

Dowding · « **Reply #11 on:** March 15, 2003, 12:58:38 PM »

Let's start talking about female circumcision performed on 12 year old girls by some Christians.

Wanna see some pictures?

What a stupid thread.

Chairboy · « **Reply #12 on:** March 15, 2003, 01:02:22 PM »

Agreed, this is a stupid thread, because Christians and Jews (and more) have done stuff just as bad as anything Muslims have done, but there appears to be some real selective memory here.

Curval · « **Reply #13 on:** March 15, 2003, 01:28:13 PM »

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Originally posted by Dowding
Let's start talking about female circumcision performed on 12 year old girls by some Christians.

Apparently the custom is cultural, not religious, and was practiced by a wide number of cultures...including those of Jewish and Christian orientation. BUT, you will find that in modern days the practice of female circumcision is performed almost exclusively by Islamic cultures, mainly situated in Africa or the near or even Far East.

Seems like some cultures "grew up" on a societal level and others didn't.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/fem_cirm.htm

As to male circumcision...I feel that it was initially a practical attempt to thwart infections in young boys. If you know how a noodle develops and grows in boys you will also know that such infections are common in uncircumcised boys.

Since the development of anti-biotics and better hygenic attention in "modern times" this practice has been continued under the guise of cultural necessity...Jews, Christains and Musilms all engage in the practice.

I am circumcised...my two boys are not. I don't agree with it, but the practice has hardly left me incapable of enjoying sex. IMHO, far from it.

Female circumcision is nothing short of multilation.

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #14 on:** March 15, 2003, 02:02:27 PM »

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Originally posted by Dowding
Let's start talking about female circumcision performed on 12 year old girls by some Christians.

Wanna see some pictures?

What a stupid thread.

Or we could go into genital mutilation - of course performed by Muslims.

Psst - youre gonna run out of "evil Christian practices" before I run out of Muslim ones.