Author Topic: ok... if we can't make early planes usable... (Read 1405 times)

Shiva · « **Reply #30 on:** March 20, 2003, 03:22:48 PM »

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Originally posted by vorticon
take a look at p51's armament 4 .50 caliber mgs look at 262's 2 20mm cannons (hard to aim) and possibly some 30mm's even harder (cant quite remember)

Ummm, last time I looked, the P-51 had six .50 caliber machine guns, and the Me-262 had four 30mm Mk108 cannons (except for the night-fighter variants, which only had two).

Apache · « **Reply #31 on:** March 20, 2003, 03:29:59 PM »

You're both right actually. The P51b has 4, the P51D has 6.

Furious · « **Reply #32 on:** March 20, 2003, 03:46:44 PM »

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Originally posted by Apache
You're both right actually. The P51b has 4, the P51D has 6.

Yeah, but the mk1a had 4 20mm Hissy's.

I'd like one BTW.

F.

udet · « **Reply #33 on:** March 20, 2003, 04:31:22 PM »

I want a DO 335.

vorticon · « **Reply #34 on:** March 20, 2003, 05:13:10 PM »

actually with 4 30mm's that makes it worse since those german cannons are a real beotch to aim

Angus · « **Reply #35 on:** March 21, 2003, 07:11:15 AM »

Does anyone remember the good old sim, Aces of The Pacific? Well, they had an add-on, - AOTP 1946. A what-if campaign based on the idea that there was no nuking and the US invaded Japan. So you had the Bearcat and the Tigercat as well as the US first Jet (Shooting Star) and on the Japanese side you had the first Jap jet (Pretty much like a 262) as well as a funny plane with a push propeller, - can't really remember what it was called.
In my opinion that would be the scenario for those planes, but not the MA. Neither the Bearcat nor the Tigercat fired their guns in anger in WW2.
And what BS is this about the Dora? The Dora saw a lot of action, and the Ta-152 saw some as well. There is no question about that.

Shiva · « **Reply #36 on:** March 21, 2003, 08:30:40 AM »

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Originally posted by Angus
So you had the Bearcat and the Tigercat as well as the US first Jet (Shooting Star) and on the Japanese side you had the first Jap jet (Pretty much like a 262) as well as a funny plane with a push propeller, - can't really remember what it was called.

The Kyushu J7W1 Shinden, a canard pusher interceptor. Only two were made; one was destroyed in the bombing of the Mitsubishi factory, the other is at the Garber facility in Silver Springs (if it hasn't been moved to the new facility next to Dulles yet).

Ripsnort · « **Reply #37 on:** March 21, 2003, 08:51:46 AM »

Here's a thought:

Once AH 2 arrives, turn AH 1 into "SWOTL" - type game.

Karnak · « **Reply #38 on:** March 21, 2003, 01:19:49 PM »

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Originally posted by AtmkRstr
It can run. Maybe you're running in the wrong direction.

The Bf109G-10, Fw190D-9, Typhoon, La-7 and P-51D are all faster than the Spitfire Mk XIV at AH combat altitudes.

Sure, you can burn your short fuel load cruising around at 25,000+ feet and be able to outrun most anything you might meet. I've done this plenty of times. However, it is boring.

udet · « **Reply #39 on:** March 21, 2003, 01:45:19 PM »

Bring the Ta-183 to the AH. That's the coolest looking plane ever

lazs2 · « **Reply #40 on:** March 22, 2003, 08:33:58 AM »

vorticon.. it's not a matter of "useful" in a "you cant' use em in the arena at all" way... I do pretty well against late war planes.. It' s a matter of fun. To me, if they aren't fun then they aren't "useful in what is..... a game.. The early war planes would be more fun if they could be segregated from the late war cherry pickers and the late war would be more fun with a bearcat.
lazs