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Offline Smut

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« on: March 21, 2003, 10:08:39 AM »
They rock...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,919003,00.html

Here is a snippet...

"Last month we accused Chirac of behaving like a worm. Today we say to the people of France: we did not go far enough. Your president is not just a worm. He has behaved like a Paris harlot."


-Smut

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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2003, 10:16:50 AM »
It's against the law to insult the president in France?   Now that's freedom.

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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2003, 10:19:29 AM »
Arrest me, I deserve the death penalty.

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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2003, 10:20:52 AM »
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It's against the law to insult the president in France?   Now that's freedom.


So you can insult the president in USA?

Nice!! :)

Offline Toad

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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2003, 10:22:22 AM »
Sure, Naso!

Just ask Weazel. He'll show you how.
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!

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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2003, 10:22:23 AM »
It's call free speech.  Too bad you don't have it.  Here we can express our opinions.

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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2003, 10:36:08 AM »
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It's call free speech.  Too bad you don't have it.  Here we can express our opinions.


Here too we can express our opinion, but not insult a people in public.

You can be surprised, but we too know what is freedom.

@ Toad.

Serious, you can publicly say :"Bush is an prettythang..." without being prosecuted, even in front of him?

Does'nt offending a public officer/man is breaking the law?

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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2003, 10:42:30 AM »
Yep, you can say you think Bush is an ass...even to his face.  Hell, watch some old Saturday Night Live re-runs of Chevy Chase.  Bumbling, Stumbling fool would be a good description of his depiction of former (current at the time) president Ford.


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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2003, 10:43:50 AM »
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Originally posted by Naso
Here too we can express our opinion, but not insult a people in public.

You can be surprised, but we too know what is freedom.

@ Toad.

Serious, you can publicly say :"Bush is an prettythang..." without being prosecuted, even in front of him?

Does'nt offending a public officer/man is breaking the law?






 You can't in Europe?

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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2003, 10:44:55 AM »
well, at $50 billion dollars in contracts with the Butcher, at least Chirac is a high-priced harlot

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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2003, 10:52:15 AM »
Sure it's legal to tell the President he's and ass, as long as your not in the military that is.

Remember the General who got fired for saying that Clinton was a dope smoking, draft dodging womanizer?

It was perfectly legal for him to say that... but prolly not very smart.

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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2003, 10:57:19 AM »
Martlet: It's call free speech.  Too bad you don't have it.  Here we can express our opinions.

 What do you think about flag burning?

 miko

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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2003, 11:03:03 AM »
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You can't in Europe?


In Italy you can criticize as you want, but you cant call names.

Plus, if you move accusations about crimes, you have to back up or you will be sued for Diffamation(?) ("Diffamazione").

The burden of the proof is on the accuser, not the defender.

The concept behind this is that your prime minister, or president, or major, etc. is in charge and representing your state, so you indirectly are offending your state.

If i affirm in public "Berlusconi is an idiot, and a thief" I can be accused of personal offence, btw, this law is not really enforced, if you look at some talk-show, and/or satira.

But is still there, if needed (is valid for common citizens too).

Anyway, at the end it's just a question of education, personal attacks are for uneducated people.

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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2003, 11:03:54 AM »
Vilifying the current occupant of the White House is the Number 1 hobby of all Americans...........There's nothing better than speaking your mind.....Slick Willy ( Clinton) is a hypocritical draft dodging pinhead......


Ahhhh I feel better already!

If ya don't vote, don't squeak!!!! I do and I do.

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« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2003, 11:04:48 AM »
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 What do you think about flag burning?

 miko


Just as above - it may be leagal, but its not always smart... and in my opinion, going too far.