Author Topic: A Public apology, source of my warps found (Read 2000 times)

Arlo · « **Reply #30 on:** March 25, 2003, 12:45:06 PM »

I hope you're not a parent or a guardian of a minor. Your logic is so flawed here, it's scary.

If you truly think that allowing ... or encouraging your children to experience the adult world in the worst possible way will lead to maturity and education and is a good thing, then you need serious help.

If you're a minor and this is the message you got from your parents ... then they need serious help too.

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Originally posted by ccvi
maturity is just a result of many different experiences.

internet porn is just one of those experiences, therefore good for maturity.

also, it can be very educational (anatomy etc.)

Siaf__csf · « **Reply #31 on:** March 25, 2003, 02:01:50 PM »

If sex wouldn't be such a taboo in our society, there wouldn't be all these crazy teenage pregnancies and VD spreading among the kids.

The kids mature up fast, and when the hormones start to rage it's way better for them to know about sex than to figure everything out themselves (the hard way.)

I studied human reproduction and sex for a long time before I actually had some (ok insert the wise crack jokes here..

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I wouldn't have it any other way. What's worse than a kid having unprotected sex and getting HIV before turning 15 just because he/she never even saw another person naked let alone discuss about sex. Or be too ashamed to go and buy profalectics..

SlapShot · « **Reply #32 on:** March 25, 2003, 02:20:58 PM »

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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
If sex wouldn't be such a taboo in our society, there wouldn't be all these crazy teenage pregnancies and VD spreading among the kids.

The kids mature up fast, and when the hormones start to rage it's way better for them to know about sex than to figure everything out themselves (the hard way.)

I studied human reproduction and sex for a long time before I actually had some (ok insert the wise crack jokes here.. )

I wouldn't have it any other way. What's worse than a kid having unprotected sex and getting HIV before turning 15 just because he/she never even saw another person naked let alone discuss about sex. Or be too ashamed to go and buy profalectics..

The topic of sex was taboo back when I was a kid and for many many years before that, so how come teenage pregnancy and STDs were not a rampant problem then ?

Don't even begin to blame it on it being "taboo". Parents like mine and their parents sheltered us (the best they could) from all the "stuff" that you feel is "OK" to let them know about and experience. Its this line of thought, IMHO, that has brought about these rampant problems.

You could teach a 10 year old to drive a car, but that doesn't mean that they should know how to drive a car, and should be allowed to drive a car. Teaching and letting kids experience things at too young of an age can have real detrimental outcomes.

What in the hell does nudity have to do with filling your kids in on the pitfalls of having unprotected sex. Well son/daughter ... were gonna have a discussion on STDs tomorrow, so here is a porn magazine ... it will all make sense tomorrow.

culero · « **Reply #33 on:** March 25, 2003, 02:26:51 PM »

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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Kanth by inserting a surveillance software he effectively denied his child any access to content he/she considers private.

So yes, he told her "You better not browse any nasty sites OR.."

"You better not type anything bad to a chat OR.."

"You better not take my creditcard and order crack online OR.."

You get the picture.

Give it a break. This might all be valid, in an adult v adult or government v citizen context, but that's not what's being discussed.

A parent who doesn't monitor his/her children in order to guide them while growing and learning about the adult world, and also in order to protect them from the dangers of that world, is an irresponsible parent indeed.

Nothing wipass said indicates he's restricting his daughter from any sort of information, merely that he's staying informed as to what she's seeing. He never said he threatened her with amy consequences regarding her internet usage. He just mentioned a concern for her safety.

I think you're seeing 2 + 2 here and making an arithmetic mistake by getting 5 as a result.

culero (DAMN sure keeps an eye on what his grandson sees on the net)

Griego · « **Reply #34 on:** March 25, 2003, 11:25:30 PM »

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Originally posted by wipass
Siaf__csf I am assuming that your Child is quite young, as they change over time so do we,

wipass

Your so right wipass. As a parent of 3 beautiful daughters 19,20,and 22 yrs old. Siaf__csf is in for a rude awakening.

Sometimes talking to them go in one ear and out the other. As a parent it's your duty to protect them from themselves. Not to mention the deviants.

Let them enjoy there childhood for as long as they can. Once innocents lost it is never regained.

This doesn't mean you don't make them aware of the dangers.

Totally agree with culero also... Except for his cpid.

Griego · « **Reply #35 on:** March 25, 2003, 11:50:37 PM »

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Originally posted by Siaf__csf

I won't try to protect my kid by eavesdropping his activities. I value privacy highly and I'm going to grant my kid just that. If he has active interest in something, he's old enough to handle it.

SLAPS Siaf__csf ... Wake up man you've got some serious parenting to do.

Siaf__csf child in 4th grade talking to a classmate:

Naw! my dads cool he just lets me do what i want. [Siaf__csf child passes joint to classmate as he gets stoned] Classmate: Wish my dad was that way, but i can't my dad would kill me if i do. Got to go. see-ya. Third classmate: reaches for the roach and says he's a dweeb give me some. [Third classmates parents are divorced and dad is not at home to look out for his kid as well as he would like to.]

Siaf__csf Wakes up from this awful dream... Son what the hell!!! are you doing on that PORN site.... I thought you were playing Disney...

Divorced parents please don't take offence.

The above is just a hypothetical situation not to cause undue stress to those that are divorced.

Wilbus · « **Reply #36 on:** March 26, 2003, 01:09:26 AM »

What is your callsign in the game? Same as on the BBS?

Thanks for telling about it though, don't agree with your way of "protecting" children, but that's another story.

DmdNexus · « **Reply #37 on:** March 26, 2003, 11:21:11 AM »

Jeesuz... it's no bodies business what wipass does to protect his 14 yr old daughter or what filters he places on his own computers for whatever purpose.

You ignorant opinionated busy body people need to get your noses out of other people's business and just shut up.

Wipass, appology not accepted! No appology or excuses was ever needed.

Tara52nd · « **Reply #38 on:** March 26, 2003, 04:09:34 PM »

Geez. The 1960's really screwed our thinking. I'm with you SlapShot.

~~Tara52nd~~

Wilbus · « **Reply #39 on:** March 27, 2003, 04:25:17 PM »

Tara52nd · « **Reply #40 on:** March 28, 2003, 12:59:42 AM »

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Originally posted by DmdNexus
Jeesuz... it's no bodies business what wipass does to protect his 14 yr old daughter or what filters he places on his own computers for whatever purpose.

You ignorant opinionated busy body people need to get your noses out of other people's business and just shut up.

Wipass, appology not accepted! No appology or excuses was ever needed.

DmdNexus... he's the one that brought it up - not us.

krazyhorse · « **Reply #41 on:** March 29, 2003, 09:21:49 AM »

I for one commend wipass. and would like to know what program he is using. See in my castle, I am the King, a solemn dictator,my son has access to the internet in his own room as long as he uses it ith the understanding that i have access to review any place he has gone and anything he has seen. If a 45 year old man comes in to my house and poses as a thirteen year old girl it is obvious as it is seen with your own eyes,and i will not permit this, on the internet that man can do the same without exposing himself as a pervert,however some ofthere statements and comments can give themselves away , when caught,I willnot permit this (and yes i have seen this before in a chatroom) my son is no longer permitted in chatrooms, he is not naive by no means, but i have my rules in my house and those who do not follow those rules can expect to lose priveledges, those who are not from my house but are visiting whether be in person or via the internet, if they do not follow my rules , can expect to be removed from my house, some by force if neccessary.

AKIron · « **Reply #42 on:** March 29, 2003, 07:31:12 PM »

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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Talk about 'big parents'

Lol.

Do you monitor her toilet activities too?

How old are you Siaf? 12-14 would be my guess.

GrimCO · « **Reply #43 on:** March 30, 2003, 08:40:01 AM »

wipass <>

Allowing a child to run through life all willy nilly with no supervision and guidance is a recipe for disaster. Kids might be more educated nowadays, but the common sense factor remains the same as it always was.

Parents have a responsibility to protect their kids from their inherent lack of wisdom. Wisdom comes with age and experience, and without guidance, a child has nothing to tap into when faced with a potentially dangerous situation that could arise in their future.

Keep it up wipass. Glad you care enough to make certain things your business.

Siaf__csf · « **Reply #44 on:** March 30, 2003, 09:22:23 AM »

AkIron I'm father of 2, you have to check your biology facts.

But I already knew you weren't the brightest bulb in the park.