Did your media mention this?

[ra]

Originally posted by Boroda
Our Strategic Rocket corps are the only reason we are not bombet yet.

Bombed by who?  Do you think someone is waiting for a chance to bomb Russia?

ra

[Wlfgng]

WOW, they have Internet in Colorado!  

wow you are so learned !!!   lol
did you just find that out?

My dear stupid friend,

don't call ME your friend,   if I were THEN I'd be stupid!!

Boroda, you may mean well (though I doubt it)
but you also need to learn a lot about your country.
They tell you what they want you to believe, just like every other country.  

You still haven't answered me, only insulted me when you couldn't answer my questions.  speaks for itself.

When you grow a brain and a spine, look me up.

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what's interesting is that I know a few Russians.. they appear much more intelligent, open minded and learned than you.  Good thing I didn't make my mind up about Russia from you!

[Boroda]

Wlfgng, i'll follow your wise advice and try to learn something about my country. Maybe you'll tell me where to start?

[Wlfgng]

start by accepting the fact that your country (and all others) don't tell you the whole truth.

[Boroda]

Originally posted by Wlfgng
start by accepting the fact that your country (and all others) don't tell you the whole truth.

No country tells us all the truth. My last mistake with Russian officials saying USSR didn't supply weapons to Iraq since 1980 shows this very well.

That's why I always try to find information sources from all sides of conflict.

Are there any pro-Iraqi English websites now? I read http://www.iraqwar.ru, but it's all in Russian. Hard to believe all they say, as hard as to believe Western media.

[Martlet]

Originally posted by Wlfgng
start by accepting the fact that your country (and all others) don't tell you the whole truth.

In most countries, the media is extremely biased or gov't run.  Not all countries, but most.  If the gov't doesn't control it, then usually it slants all it's news anyway, since obviously they favor their own country.

I swear in the US the exact opposite is true.  The media hates us.  Some chick in Jordan (a CNN reporter) went on for 5-10 minutes spewing anti american crap about how we're getting our butts kicked before the anchor could shut her up.  The anchor then stated she was obviously listening to the Iraqi propaganda.  I bet we don't see her again.


Hmmmm, I hijacked my own post.

[Wlfgng]

Hard to believe all they say, as hard as to believe Western media.

see.. there is something we can agree on.

I'd venture to say all media is biased in one way or another.. trick is to learn to seperate the truth out.

I also agree that utilizing multiple sources of information/news is the only way to go.. not perfect but it beats only having one view point.

You must also see that America is trying to be civil as it can be in this conflict.  
Trying to avoid civillian casualties, treating POW's with decency, etc.

[Boroda]

Wlfgng, I simly can't help thinking of the US as of an enemy, because the obvious result of this unprovoked agression will be the economical collapse here in Russia. I also try to understand who'll be the next target for "peace bombings" and "forced democracy".

About civilian casualities - US troops may really want to avoid them, but so far they fail. How can anyone speak about "precison weapons" that already have hit neighbouring countries and blow up buses with refugees?...  About POWs - Iraq showed that American POWs are kept in good conditions and recieve medical treatment. Americans just show some people wearing moustache in civilian clothes standing in rows.

I don't blame anyone, war is war, it's just the same thing we did in Chechnya. But the reasons for this war are beyond my understanding. We had a chance to form a real alliance against terrorism, we had opportunity to work together - and now everything is down the drain. There is no such economical benefit that isn't vital to your people and OTOH can excuse argession against souverign nation.

[funkedup]

"precison weapons" that already have hit neighbouring countries and blow up buses with refugees?

The hits in Iran turned out to be Iraqi missiles.
The bus drove onto the bridge after the pilot had dropped his bomb.
I guess Pravda forgot to tell the whole story.

[AKS\/\/ulfe]

I see Toad is correct, Boroda truly is a Cold War relic.

How come you aren't on display in a museum?
-SW

[funkedup]

Wlfgng, I simly can't help thinking of the US as of an enemy, because the obvious result of this unprovoked agression will be the economical collapse here in Russia. I also try to understand who'll be the next target for "peace bombings" and "forced democracy".

I think you are getting a bit paranoid.  It is understandable for Russians to be paranoid, considering history.

[Sikboy]

Boroda!



I believe the SORT treaty simply limits the agregat number of warheads allowed by each nation. It says nothing of how they will be deployed, and I don't think it has anything to do with what happens to the warheads which are taken "out of play" here.

SORT is in the best interest of the Russian people.  Russia is going to reduce their total number of warheads. They have no choice, due to the costs involved.

-Sikboy

[Wlfgng]

ah.. I see now.

fear drives Boroda.

don't worry man, we don't want any part of Russia.

and you are quite out of touch with the American people and motives.


you are entirely mislead if you believe all you wrote.

[ra]

the obvious result of this unprovoked agression will be the economical collapse here in Russia.

How so?  Russia has a $1.3 trillion economy, Iraq's is around $60 billion.  You are getting, or spreading, bad information.

ra


PS:  'unprovoked'?

[Wlfgng]

not only that.. what the heck does the US taking out Saddam have to do with Russia's economy unless it's because it'll stifle the sale of illegal weapons/technology to Iraq?

Wlfgng, I simly can't help thinking of the US as of an enemy,

be careful what you wish for...