Author Topic: what I think naval combat in AH lacks (Read 628 times)

udet · « **on:** March 27, 2003, 12:41:14 PM »

performant aircraft.

1: Curtis SB2C Helldiver. Tricky to fly, but faster than the Avenger and the Dauntless.Larger bombload. Later marks have cannon armament. Also better protection from the rear.
2: Bristol Beaufighter-Can be used as a land based torpedo bomber. Awesome forward armament. Should be able to kill destroyers and vaporize PT boats.

AdmRose · « **Reply #1 on:** March 27, 2003, 02:08:20 PM »

Udet, you saying you have a problem vaporizing PT boats with the current planeset?

udet · « **Reply #2 on:** March 27, 2003, 02:32:42 PM »

takes too much time for my liking....anyways, I just want the Beaufighter and the Helldiver!!!!

Karnak · « **Reply #3 on:** March 27, 2003, 09:54:47 PM »

Try the Beaufighter's replacement, the Mosquito. It is PT Boat death.

The Helldiver was the piece of crap that led to the Curtiss company's end. It was so bad that the aircrews prefered the old SBD-5 as it performed better and was more survivable.

J_A_B · « **Reply #4 on:** March 27, 2003, 10:31:10 PM »

The Helldiver would likely be more popular in AH than the Dauntless, or even the TBM. The potent 20mm cannons would see to that. (it'd be the only non-perk carrier-based plane with Hispano-type cannons). What makes a plane good (or bad) in reality doesn't always transcend into the MA. The Helldiver's poor stability and carrier takeoff/landing habits wouldn't affect it anymore than the F4U is affected.

That said, we apparently aren't going to be seeing any new aircraft in AH for quite some time.

J_A_B

Karnak · « **Reply #5 on:** March 27, 2003, 10:59:58 PM »

There are far larger gaps in the planeset than the Helldiver and Beaufighter.

I do think they should be added, but they shouldn't be a priority.

J_A_B · « **Reply #6 on:** March 28, 2003, 01:21:17 AM »

Agreed Karnak, there's bigger holes in the planeset. Particularly as noted in your sig line.

J_A_B

Angus · « **Reply #7 on:** March 31, 2003, 09:02:43 AM »

Well, the Beaufighter for one thing would be a nice addition. It ould be the only torpedoe carrying plane who could also sport rockets AND Hizookas:D
Was it able to carry two torps? If it was, better still.
Later on, it was also a night interceptor with radar, so good for that purpose too.
Bring the Beau

Dr Zhivago · « **Reply #8 on:** March 31, 2003, 10:55:36 AM »

Hhhhmmm... Fairey Firefly with four Hizpaanoz is my choice

udet · « **Reply #9 on:** March 31, 2003, 12:03:50 PM »

there is no 'modern' carrierborne dive-bomber in AH.

F4UDOA · « **Reply #10 on:** March 31, 2003, 01:16:16 PM »

How about the Grace Torpedo bomber.

Single engine, Gull Wing, Very Fast and heavily armed.

Saw plenty of service too.

Or a Judy Torpedo Bomber

Both were 300MPH sea level A/C. Faster than anything carring a torpedo in AH today. Would be far more competitive.

Furious · « **Reply #11 on:** March 31, 2003, 01:34:56 PM »

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Originally posted by J_A_B
...(it'd be the only non-perk carrier-based plane with Hispano-type cannons...

Seafire

TeeDog · « **Reply #12 on:** April 01, 2003, 07:25:10 PM »

Some Helldiver pilots even recommended that they be turned into anchors. But, the aircraft did gain respect and eventually became the fleet's dive-bomber. During the last two years of the war, the SB2C proved itself an effective attack bomber. The U.S. Army Air Corps even purchased some of the Curtiss design, calling them A-25 Shrikes.

Jester · « **Reply #13 on:** April 02, 2003, 07:03:42 AM »

What's missing is the KMS GRAF ZEPPELIN

Along with ME-109T fighters & JU-87C Sea Stuka's.

HORRIDO!

Rasker · « **Reply #14 on:** April 02, 2003, 02:40:42 PM »

plus KMS Bismarck and the follow-on "H" class BB's with better armor, same speed and 8x16" guns, and the IJN Kongo class fast battleships for bombarding Henderson field