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[blitz]

Originally posted by N1kPaz
To try to slow the spread of communism.

Honestly Blitz. Why are you in favor of leaving an Evil Sadistic Bastard like Sadam in power for another day or a month or a year. You anti-war people squeak about wanting to save the iraqi people from war. well what about the people he slaughters? is it fair to leave people under the rule of someone who is totally self centered and cares about his people only in what they can do for him, or how he can use them to save his own ass.

I cannot believe decent countries actually support leaving someone so evil in power. you guys dont give a crap about human rights, or freedom...you care only about yourselves. Believe me Blitz...the oppressed people of the world know better than to look to Germany or France for their assistance.

They know it would be a waste of time!

Sure they do. Go ahead !


Regards Blitz





America was threatened by Iraq in no way, it was just plain ridiculous, it's an "Angriffskrieg"


2 Million people was killed in Vietnam, 3 million injured. What for?

[blitz]

Originally posted by Steve
Gscholz,. get a clue.  buy a clue.. if you cannot afford a clue, I will have one appointed for you.  The only person who has created any kind of shortage of food/medicine for the Iraqi people is Saddam... not any imagined embargo.  Saddam had the ability to buy food and medicine for his people.  He chose instead to build palaces and hoarde the money for himself.  If you blame one the loss of one life in Iraq on anyone but Saddam, you are a fool.  Retract your statement, it's making you look like an uninformed love muffin.

He was ya friend for a very long period of time. US government sold him WMDs, he used 'em mostly, ya want them back?

Regards Blitz





America was threatened by Iraq in no way, it was just plain ridiculous, it's an "Angriffskrieg"


2 Million people was killed in Vietnam, 3 million injured. What for?

[Dowding]

They wouldn't accept me even if I did enlist - I'm epileptic and they don't like that, the bastards.

Although straight after uni I did apply for RAF officer training. It's something I've always wanted to do, but unfortunately the short-circuit in my brain will always let me down. No epileptics in any branch of the military. Not even the Territorial Army (like the US National Guard/Reservists).

But that's beside the point. My decision would be made in a flash, of course. Are you saying that in the future, such a choice wouldn't be as clear cut?

[Toad]

No, I'm saying the choice is clear cut right now.

Well, for most people.

[Steve]

No I don't see that. And neither do you, unless you are assinine enough to believe propaganda films are depicting the full truth of what the populous feels.  In any event, neither you nor I will know their true sentiments until Saddam is gone.  To presume otherwise is.. well assinine.

[AKS\/\/ulfe]

Originally posted by GScholz
Because they hate you even more than they hate the POS they have for a president. If you can't see that then you are blind.

So it is better to sit idly by? Seems most of the world enjoys doing that. Ignore the problem, eventually it will go away.

You seem so concerned that the people hate us now... the ones who do hate us have been hating us for quite some time now.

Think future generations will be full of hate? Unlike their parents, they wouldn't have grown up underneath a tyrannical genocidal dictator... no longer will they be told to hate.

They can't realize what is being brought to them, but leaving Saddam and his regime in power- they will NEVER realize.
-SW

[Skuzzy]

Originally posted by blitz
I'm a Moebeltischler mostly, which means furniture.

Worked in Berlin opera once.
After the first day the responsible guy told me: "Dude, ya too accurate, first visitors sitting 20 meters away"

Nah, no wife, but living with a very good female friend for 20 years now, she's my best friend and she my worst opponent when it deales with cleaning the rooms.

Kids? 14. I'm their father, mother, friend (seldom), satan (normaly)

My girlfriend is from east Berlin, doesn't know much about politics, tho, just communist propaganda in some way, mostly.

My mother and sisters still next to the netherland border.

Father joined german forces in Russia and learned something about. He refused to buy me my cowboy outfit when i was 6, bann him . God bless his soul
Regards Blitz

I know what you mean about the furniture.  I built all the furniture for my son's room, and every now and then my wife would tell me, "Honey, it does not have to be perfect."  That would always get a glare from me.

14 kids!  WOW!  How big a house you have?  What is the age range of that group?

So your family is still close enough to visit often?  My wife's family is close by, so we join up for lunch/brunch every Sunday with her brother's family.

What is the area of Germany you live in like these days?  It has been a number of years since I have been to Germany.  My family originally came from there.  Somewhere around the Munich area.
Is the economy doing ok?

[Gyro/T69]

"It didn't surprise me that she hated the Israelis, however what surprised me is that she
hated the USA even more for supporting Israel."



  That's not a surprise at all to me. From their point of view, the only reason the Israelis are still alive is because of the US. We played a big part in getting them their home in 48.

  Each time the Arabs have gone to war with them, the US has backed Israel with supplies and equipment which helped to break the back of each Arab attack.

   It will always comes back down to that equation. As long as we support Israel, we will be crap in the eyes of the middle east.

[AKS\/\/ulfe]

I see what you mean, I guess for the most part most of the Iraqis that don't hate the US are pretty much already here (or atleast not in Iraq).

As the ball has already been set in motion, we'll have to see how this all pans out.
-SW

[blitz]

Originally posted by Skuzzy
I know what you mean about the furniture.  I built all the furniture for my son's room, and every now and then my wife would tell me, "Honey, it does not have to be perfect."  That would always get a glare from me.

WTG, Skuzzy  

I remember a bed i build for myself  before i was a carpenter 25 years ago. Was more like a shermantank than a furniture, he,he. Shame on me

I love carpentery  It's always very rewarding building things.

I do this for 23years now and i have never regret it.

14 kids!  WOW!  How big a house you have?  What is the age range of that group?[/B]

Was a bit missunderstanding, sorry.

I have no real kids myself but workin with my group

9 hours a day teaching, discussing, fighting, healing their little wounds makes me feel sometimes like  i was their father.
The group has 14 members, 13 boys, 1 girl, they all between 17 and 21years.
Some have bad parents, some failed miserably in school, some have pchyological problems and most of them are well known to the police. They're all loutmouths, no real selfestem, workin is a good therapy for them.  Sometimes they really hate me, normally after somebody is late and i made him a non smoker for the day

So your family is still close enough to visit often?  My wife's family is close by, so we join up for lunch/brunch every Sunday with her brother's family.[/B]

It's 500 kilometers to see them Normaly its 2times a year.

What is the area of Germany you live in like these days?  It has been a number of years since I have been to Germany.  My family originally came from there.  Somewhere around the Munich area.
Is the economy doing ok? [/B]

I live in Berlin for about 20 years now, 10 min from the "Brandenburger Tor". It's nice and busy here. Ya should come here some day again, Berlin has totally changed after we got the east back.

When did your family went to Amerika? And why? Where did they settle down?


Economy is down on the floor here in Germany
There are several reasons for it but the most important is that we have to pay 100drets and 100drets of million D-Mark to bult up the east part of Germany again.
All their industry was to old to stand a chance against ours.
Many, many have lost their  job in former east Germany.
We'll see hard times in Germany in the comin 10 years , i guess.


Regards Blitz

[Skuzzy]

Originally posted by blitz
WTG, Skuzzy  

I remember a bed i build for myself  before i was a carpenter 25 years ago. Was more like a shermantank than a furniture, he,he. Shame on me

I love carpentery  It's always very rewarding building things.

I do this for 23years now and i have never regret it.

You sound like me.  I overbuild everything.  I agree, woodworking is really very relaxing for me.  I dowel, dado, and glue everything together.  Wife just shakes head, "It wouldn't hurt to use a nail or two".
But she is patient and realizes I take a great deal in pride building things.

 

Was a bit missunderstanding, sorry.

I have no real kids myself but workin with my group

9 hours a day teaching, discussing, fighting, healing their little wounds makes me feel sometimes like  i was their father.
The group has 14 members, 13 boys, 1 girl, they all between 17 and 21years.
Some have bad parents, some failed miserably in school, some have pchyological problems and most of them are well known to the police. They're all loutmouths, no real selfestem, workin is a good therapy for them.  Sometimes they really hate me, normally after somebody is late and i made him a non smoker for the day

WTG blitz!  I have had the oppertunity to work with kids like those.  When I was running my ISP business, I would have a couple of kids working there, learning how the stuff worked.  I still keep tabs on them today.  Most of them are working at large ISP's or for big companies as network admins.
One of the them went back to college and got his degree in Electronics Engineering.  Another got a degree in Physics.
I like to think I made a difference and that is something, as you know, no one can take away from you.

 

It's 500 kilometers to see them Normaly its 2times a year.

Sorry to hear that, but at least you get to see them and spend time with them, even if it is not very often.
 

I live in Berlin for about 20 years now, 10 min from the "Brandenburger Tor". It's nice and busy here. Ya should come here some day again, Berlin has totally changed after we got the east back.

I might take you up on that one day.  I have told my wife we should visit Germany.  She has never been there, but would like to go.

When did your family went to Amerika? And why? Where did they settle down?

My Great Grandmother and her daughter were German Jews.  They were being hidden by another German family, when one day the home they lived in was blown up in a bombing raid.  They survived, but the family hiding them died.
They took the papers from the family and escaped to the U.S.  Even in the U.S., they were so terrified that Germany would win the war they kept the family's name (Hempel) and settled in the Waco area of Texas.

Economy is down on the floor here in Germany
There are several reasons for it but the most important is that we have to pay 100drets and 100drets of million D-Mark to bult up the east part of Germany again.
All their industry was to old to stand a chance against ours.
Many, many have lost their  job in former east Germany.
We'll see hard times in Germany in the comin 10 years , i guess.


Regards Blitz

Sorry to hear that.  Hopefully the country will be stronger than ever once they get past all that.  The job market here is not too great either.  When I closed my company, with all my expertise, I was out of work for several months.
Fortunately, for me, I have a wonderful wife and a great family.  Goes a long ways when things get tough.  
Hopefully your government leaders  will do the right things to get Germany back on track.

[blitz]

Originally posted by Skuzzy
You sound like me.  I overbuild everything.  I agree, woodworking is really very relaxing for me.  I dowel, dado, and glue everything together.  Wife just shakes head, "It wouldn't hurt to use a nail or two".
But she is patient and realizes I take a great deal in pride building things.

WTG blitz!  I have had the oppertunity to work with kids like those.

Thx , same to you, we do get something back you can't buy, don't we?


One of my two folks who had graduation in carpentery on friday was a turkish guy named 'Ersin'.

He's big, weight is about 110kilogramm and he tells the best jokes ever.

Six month ago he freaked out in my office: " IS YOUR DIGG LONGER THAN MINE" he screamed and hit with his foot in a cupboard so the door went away.

Remind him on yesterday about his 'Event'

"Damn, i had to say something, at least ", he replied and we both had a good laugh.

I might take you up on that one day.  I have told my wife we should visit Germany.  She has never been there, but would like to go. [/B]

You're welcome but i suggest  to go in the summertime, it's so much nicer than

My Great Grandmother and her daughter were German Jews.  They were being hidden by another German family, when one day the home they lived in was blown up in a bombing raid.  They survived, but the family hiding them died.
They took the papers from the family and escaped to the U.S.  Even in the U.S., they were so terrified that Germany would win the war they kept the family's name (Hempel) and settled in the Waco area of Texas.
[/B]

Was aware of that.  I hate those nazy scum . Glad, they were lucky  to escape, so many didn't succeed  doin that.

Sorry to hear that.  Hopefully the country will be stronger than ever once they get past all that.  The job market here is not too great either.  When I closed my company, with all my expertise, I was out of work for several months.
Fortunately, for me, I have a wonderful wife and a great family.  Goes a long ways when things get tough.  
Hopefully your government leaders  will do the right things to get Germany back on track. [/B]

Being young helps a lot these days- i'm not


Regards Blitz

[Hangtime]

from Blitz... Thx , same to you, we do get something back you can't buy, don't we?