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« Reply #90 on: April 01, 2003, 02:40:56 PM »
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2. N1k2's do things that aren't physcially possible :eek:


 


Glad somebody else noticed that.  If Iraq's Air Force had
10 nikis, 5 La7's, we would still be fighting for control of the
air.

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« Reply #91 on: April 01, 2003, 02:53:00 PM »
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Glad somebody else noticed that.  If Iraq's Air Force had
10 nikis, 5 La7's, we would still be fighting for control of the
air.



N1K2s aren't the wonder weapon some make them out to be.  A lot of planes perform better in the vertical and at speed above 300mph, the N1K2 doesn't turn all that well.  Also, depending on the plane you fly, stall fighting is another good option to use against the N1K2.


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« Reply #92 on: April 01, 2003, 02:55:29 PM »
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You may consider I reversed to steal a kill or just to help the alone rook P51 against the P51. BTW, your presentation and interpretation of the facts are very clear: to steal it.

About typical behaviours, I can remember some six cleaned while you were flying navy blue planes.


I do not consider that "stealing" a kill. "stealing" to me is pumping lead into an already disabled aircraft. It was, however, unnecessary as I had him cold, just 400 yards behind. The best way to help was to lay back and cover the attacking fighter. Should I lose my advantage, then I would hand off to you and cover your six. That's teamwork, rather than two dogs tugging at the same piece of meat. As it was I was a bit disappointed. Whenever I see a teammate saddled up, I simply cover him till he gets the kill. However, if he has not yet gained position and I have a shot, I'll take it. Even if I'm working a con for 5 minutes, if I haven't managed to gain position, I don't complain if someone smacks him down. I had my opportunity.

I'm sure people have cleared my six on occasion and I'm always grateful. I also recall that you have given me several "check 6" calls. Again, thank you. Likewise, no one gives out more "check 6" calls than I do. Whenever feasible, I will attempt to drive an enemy off of the tail of a teammate. There are exceptions, such as when the SA challenged dives into a low horde. These knuckleheads are on their own, I won't compound their error. Generally speaking, I try to demonstrate courtesy towards teammates. There are some guys I know that I cannot depend on, either because they are still way down on the learning curve, or they simply don't care about anyone but themselves. Still, I'll help them simply because a dead teammate is really useless.

Anyway, I won't hold it against you, but I do think that you took advantage of an easy opportunity. Rest assured that I would do the same thing every time, because it's the right thing to do. In the same manner you can count on your six being clear if I'm covering it.

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« Reply #93 on: April 01, 2003, 09:13:27 PM »
I hate Dweeb(dive) niners

Why they can run, dive and climb away from my p38
Also they have a big amount of ammo.

So they can cherry spray pick on me withouth being punished.
It also is the worst plane to get a positive kd on.

On the nik la7 stang and spit i have a positive kd

But the D9 .......

i just wonder why it isn't perked.

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« Reply #94 on: April 01, 2003, 11:40:59 PM »
There will always be a fastest plane and there will always be dweebs that use it to run from any situation where they might be at a disadvantage.   Thankfully the La7 does has some weaknesses compared to the other speed planes.

I don't hate planes, I save my hate for players and squads.

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« Reply #95 on: April 02, 2003, 12:17:33 AM »
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I don't hate planes, I save my hate for players and squads.


Uh, gee, thanks.

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« Reply #96 on: April 02, 2003, 08:44:19 AM »
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N1K2s aren't the wonder weapon some make them out to be.  A lot of planes perform better in the vertical and at speed above 300mph, the N1K2 doesn't turn all that well.  Also, depending on the plane you fly, stall fighting is another good option to use against the N1K2.


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Stop! Stop!  My ribs, my poor, poor ribs!  That's almost as funny as your statement that the Typhoon isn't uber!

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« Reply #97 on: April 02, 2003, 09:45:36 AM »
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Jeeeeeeeeeezuz whats with the Tiffie-bashing?

I can remember when there was only me, Manedog, and Wardog who flew the tiffie!


Hey, I've always been a Tiffy driver :)

Planes I 'dislike':-

1.  La7 - Everything about it is very uber... just pleased that the guns aren't as accurate as others :)  Fast as hell!

2.  N1K2 - Seems to do very strange things.  Can't explain what but nearly always you end up saying 'How on earth did they do that??'

3.  A6Ms - Just hate these planes!  Probably more my own fault since I try to dogfight them in my Tiffy :)

4.  190D9 - Very much an opportunist aircraft, quite often I see one get just one kill then runs home..... possibly to return once again.

That's my 2 pence worth.
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« Reply #98 on: April 02, 2003, 11:24:35 AM »
i hate that plane on my 6 shooting at me...goway plane ...goway...shoo

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« Reply #99 on: April 02, 2003, 11:28:57 AM »
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My whine-o-meter is pinging red!  Flee, this thread is gonna blow!

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no chit!  i cant believe someone whined about the hurri being uber.

this HAS to be the whine all to end all

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« Reply #100 on: April 02, 2003, 12:01:20 PM »
Hum, lets see I hate those La-7s and mustangs cas most pilots who fly them are a bunch of running chickens. I also hate small airplanes in general because they are hard to hit because of their size in the cross hairs. Also I hate spits because they always seem to be able to take alot of damage. Seems like I have to put twice the amount of ammo I think I will need in them to kill them. They are so dam maneuvorable that my strategy is to disable them first (makes them less maneuvorable) like when Im in my A-8 then kill them when its safe. Shoot shoot their parts dont seem to fly off till you put more lead into them. Then off comes an aerolon yeah! Shoot shoot  them maybe a tailplane, maybe some smoke. Then finaly elimnate them, always with the thought, dam those f***king things are HARD as rocks. Ok my favorite planes are the FW-190A8, P-39L, Zero. A8 is my favorite closely tied to the P-38 though I prefer the 38 if I strap tanks on for long range hunting when the map situation sucks. Plus its got lotsa lotsa ammo. With the A8 I just gas 100% all the time anyways cas it turns like crap. I'll dogfight anything in a zero. Oh yeah, corsairs also I like those too. I just dont like them too much in game because of the fuel load. I group the corsair with the 109. The jug can go long range and has lotsa ammo but its easy to be caught low and slow in it far from home cas its big and heavy, 38 not. A low fuel 38 is quite deadly an opponent. Admitingly Im most deadly when I fly the zero though.

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« Reply #101 on: April 02, 2003, 12:13:02 PM »
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<> Everyone,

     I still have a hard time understanding why people are called "spit dweebs" "Run-190s" etc.  I mean really, a plane does not make someone a better/worse pilot.  I don't claim to be any great fighter ace, but I shoot down the Spit IX more than any other plane except the pony, and I am NOT one of the best pilots, so as far as I am concerned, BRING 'EM ON!  There are excellent pilots for all planes.  I have flown against incredible pilots that were in "not so dweeb planes."  Every plane has a strength(s) and weakness(es).  Far be it from me to call someone a "dweeb" because they shoot me down in their La-7, Tiffie, whatever... regardless of how good they are or aren't, they flew away and I didn't.  Who's the dweeb now?   If you find yourself being shot down more often by one of these "dweebs", then I suggest the finger is being pointed in the wrong direction.  Every plane can be shot down.  The key is  matching the strenghts of the plane you are flying with the weaknesses of the plane your enemy is flying.  

 By the way, I am a DWEEB I guess.  I absoluteley LOVE THE LA-7.   Anyone who says 'It's EASY to get a kill in a La-7" is only trying to sound macho, IMHO.  It is a very difficult plane to master (something I have not done) and an inexperienced pilot has/would have a difficult time scoring kills.   I hate flying the Spit, I'm better off in a glider.  

  Suggestion:  For 3 days- write down every death, how you died,what plane shot you down, and what was the mode of attack used.  You will be surprised at the results, I think.  You will find a common denominator among deaths.  Sure helped me learn a lot about my flying style.  

  Good Luck to all!!! Check 6!

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  Getting shot down sucks.


yes its hard to master la-7 when it comes at aiming its cannons. BnZ is very easy with this plane but aiming is not compared to spit9

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« Reply #102 on: April 02, 2003, 02:01:45 PM »
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Stop! Stop!  My ribs, my poor, poor ribs!  That's almost as funny as your statement that the Typhoon isn't uber!



P-38L will out perform a N1K2 in the vertical, it retains its E far better.  P-38L, because of it's far more gentle stall characteristics has the advantage in a stall fight, which by the way is another good tactic to use against Spitfires, especially the Spitfire Mk IX and XIV models.  The P-38L also has better high speed handling than the N1K2 at in high speed turn fight, can easily get inside the turn of the N1K2.  

These tactics work for me majority of the time, so that's why I don't consider the N1K2 or the Spitfire to be any sort of 'Uber' weapons.  Smart tactics go a long way.


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« Reply #103 on: April 02, 2003, 02:19:35 PM »
Is this thread a form of group therapie ?
running away :)


Seriously I don't see what make the typhoon so uber ...
gun package perhaps ?

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« Reply #104 on: April 02, 2003, 04:02:28 PM »
I hate the Me 163 because I cant fly it, but the rest of the woprld can. but it is fulfilling to kill one with a 109.

I hate the 190, I cant kill them, its a hex for me.

I hate Zekes!!!!!! when in puting along at 25 @ 390 MPH at fulll throttle, a zeke appears outa no where and tries to cream me. I can usually out run it then climb and attack, but I hate  them.


On a lighter note. I love 109s espesially the G10.:D :cool:  its fast