Author Topic: poor russian soldier (Read 2021 times)

rc51 · « **Reply #30 on:** April 01, 2003, 10:50:00 PM »

very disturbing!!!!!!

Boroda · « **Reply #31 on:** April 02, 2003, 12:34:32 PM »

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Originally posted by Ike 2K#
Is chechnya right now still fighting for severeignty?

On March, 23, they had a referendum and majority voted for their new constitution as a part of Russian Federation.

Ike, Chechens are brave and noble people. Most of them. They are VERY different from us. They indeed are best friends if you earn their friendship and worst enemies. They are manic in keeping their promises.

Interesting fact: Nikolay II personal guards were mostly Chechens.

It's not Chechens we fight. It's terrorists.

Hehe, my district Militia officer is a Chechen.

Boroda · « **Reply #32 on:** April 02, 2003, 12:41:36 PM »

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Originally posted by Martlet
Ahhh, so when it happens to you, they are animals, but when it happens to the US, we are criminals.

Why not just leave them alone? Get out of their country.

First, when it happened to the US - the whole Russia was in shock... Thousands of people brought flowers and candles to the US embassy. At the same time Chechen "freedom fighters" cheered WTC tragedy.

Funny: in one mountain camp they were so happy they started to shoot at the air... Russian howitzers had a good target. 50+ terrorists killed in a few minutes.

And remember: it's OUR country, and we are not going to leave a single acre to terrorists who want to live under Shariat laws, and want freedom - freedom to kill, rape, rob and enslave.

JFYI: more then a half of Chechnya is the "Land of Terek Warriorship", Cossak lands.

Boroda · « **Reply #33 on:** April 02, 2003, 12:45:25 PM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
i kinda awed at a russian military that can lose 4,500 men a year in a province they already occupy..

kinda explains the miffed tone to pravda lately. how can we can invade a 'hostile' country, cut through half of iraq in two weeks and control over 1/3 of it and lose less than 50?

methinks russian military leadership has... ummm... issues.

Hang, Russian military do have issues. This losses could be 90% less if not our beloved "human rights" freaks. To get better press it's easier to lose another platoon or company then to answer fire with fire

It's a desperate effort to save "civilians"

If you make a fool pray - he'll break his forehead.

Wlfgng · « **Reply #34 on:** April 02, 2003, 12:47:49 PM »

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This losses could be 90% less if not our beloved "human rights" freaks. To get better press it's easier to lose another platoon or company then to answer fire with fire

so.. same in your country as ours eh?

Boroda · « **Reply #35 on:** April 02, 2003, 12:50:37 PM »

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Originally posted by Ike 2K#
Yes their (Russian/Soviet) military leadership has issues. they still think that "strenght in numbers" will win the war like in WWII but their population is now a puny 140million (almost equal to that of japan). Soviet/Russia may have good military hardware that is supperior than that of USA but their tactics are primitive. Afghanistan and Chechnya shows us how their leadership planing is primitive. They need change in the military to prevent more casualties.

O yes, i remembered last year when the fully loaded troops (120) in the Mi-26 chopper was shot down by chechen rebels using RPGs. All of them are perished.

Ike, JFYI: territory of Chechnya is 60 (sixty) times less then Afghanistan.

The problem is that we prepared to fight a full-scale war with NATO, and local war tactics wasn't developed. First years in Afghan taught us a lot. Casualities in 87-88 were very small.

The problem with Chechnya is that commanders have to fight having "human rights" in their head, or they'll be sent to military jury and sentenced. In a situation when US Marines shot down 12 Iraqi women in a van - Russians could probably lose some soldiers in case that "sisters" wore Shakhid belts.

Boroda · « **Reply #36 on:** April 02, 2003, 12:56:07 PM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
it's worse than just a rotten plan.. it's a rotten service.. russian soldiers are conscripts.. un paid mostly. they forage and rape and loot.. they are despised by the locals.

no amount of 'planning' can save that army. either russia turns chechnya over to the chechens and gets the hell outta there (like we're gonna do in iraq) or they will continue to be slaughtered to the tune of 5k a year.

Before you "pacify" Iraq - you'll have the same problems. Unfortunately, you already have them. Any "civilian" can turn into a partizan after the sunset.

Who told you US are going to get out of Iraq?

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #37 on:** April 02, 2003, 12:58:05 PM »

Am I sick to be curious about seeing this video?

Siaf__csf · « **Reply #38 on:** April 02, 2003, 01:33:34 PM »

It's normal to be curious..

But after you see the video you'll wish you didn't.

That video is a wakeup call - these people do not live or follow the western standards. They're an enemy that's capable of doing the unexpected - as seen on 911.

It makes them extremely dangerous.

Estes · « **Reply #39 on:** April 02, 2003, 04:21:33 PM »

If anyone who really wants to see it I will email the link too you. Im not going to put it back up on here because people have told me to take it down

Ike 2K# · « **Reply #40 on:** April 02, 2003, 08:45:05 PM »

By the way, that Russian soldier who was executed on the video is not a POW! Instead of capturing him, they killed him right away painfully because the rebels cant afford POWs in their camps and the rebels dont have enough foods to give it to the POWs.

Boroda · « **Reply #41 on:** April 03, 2003, 10:30:04 AM »

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Originally posted by Ike 2K#
By the way, that Russian soldier who was executed on the video is not a POW! Instead of capturing him, they killed him right away painfully because the rebels cant afford POWs in their camps and the rebels dont have enough foods to give it to the POWs.

Well, this doesn't prevent them from keeping Russian prisoners as slaves.

They still kidnap bums in Russian cities because they need slaves. There were many interviews with homeless people who were "hired" for a season work for food and vodka, only to find themselves chained in a zindan... This practice started in Soviet times. You see, they had plenty of wide freedoms

Last operation to release slaves took part about a week ago. 10+ people released, their masters arrested, and the - released too! There is no "legislative base" to sue them and send to jail, so the simply had to release slave owners!

That's how "Russian barbarians who came from the East" (c) Sturmbahnfurher Grunherz, violate all the international conventions to murder, rape and plunder poor freedom fighters.

About the video: they make such videos to send them to their sponsors, who need evidence of the real struggle of the "rebels". In fact, since 2000, most of the terrorists are foreign Moslim mercenaries, fighting for money. Like in times when someone (guess who?) payed $1000 for a head of Soviet officer in Afghanistan.

Airhead · « **Reply #42 on:** April 03, 2003, 10:40:23 AM »

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Originally posted by BGBMAW

I have seen hundreds of deatsh up close already...that is enuff for me..

Strange how "unhuman" poeple can become..

BiGB
xoxo

I'm getting nervous over here. BiGB lives bout twenty minutes from me and he's seen hundreds of deaths. I think he's a serial killer- Skuzzy, please don't tell him where I live. I promise to post nice.

Ike 2K# · « **Reply #43 on:** April 03, 2003, 11:53:53 AM »

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Originally posted by Estes
If anyone who really wants to see it I will email the link too you. Im not going to put it back up on here because people have told me to take it down

Can you send that video to me at my email cableisallgoodbaby@attbi.com? Im going to put my friend in a "3 day diet" once he sees it

Airhead · « **Reply #44 on:** April 03, 2003, 11:59:11 AM »

Ike, you're just as disgusting as Estes.