Author Topic: How is the M16 performing? (Read 1423 times)

davidpt40 · « **on:** April 01, 2003, 04:43:53 PM »

Anyone heard anything about how the M16 is performing in this war?

Since its only semi-automatic and 3 round burst, some say this puts U.S. troops at a disadvantage. Especially for providing supressive fire and close quarters combat.

Also, any reports on the M240 or 249? I've heard they've had problems in the past.

Animal · « **Reply #1 on:** April 01, 2003, 05:03:09 PM »

au contraire, when it was full auto troops tended to just spray and pray a full mag without hitting the target

with single shot and burst they are forced to aim and do a better job as riflemen.

besides, the the m-16 shoots more RPM in burst mode than it did in full auto.

Wlfgng · « **Reply #2 on:** April 01, 2003, 05:05:38 PM »

more deadly in semiauto as Animal said.

the damned thing is accurate as hell.. very flat trajectory and you can't tell what the round will do once it hits..could twirl, change direction, etc

bad-ass weapon that I relied on in the CG.
full auto is such a waste..
can't aim, the barrel heats up, gotta reload instantly

besides, if the want to spray and pray they have the tripod mounted 'big guns'...50cal, etc

mason22 · « **Reply #3 on:** April 01, 2003, 05:17:36 PM »

it's pretty damn astounding what a full metal jacket .223 will do to 1/2" steel.

as Wlfgng said...accurate.

BGBMAW · « **Reply #4 on:** April 01, 2003, 06:35:01 PM »

BiGB<< very big fan of the 223 round...

just bougth another 1,000 rounds FMJs for $120...

just got a Leupold 4.5-20 -50mm scope..Only regret is it doesnt have the Target knobs on it..i have to use a penny or a shellcasing to adjust..but.....the trajectory is so flat..hell at 100 yds or 300 ysd..its almost the same!!

Salute
BiGB

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #5 on:** April 01, 2003, 06:56:58 PM »

Never fired an M16/AR15 but the HK MP5s I have shot go through a full magazine very very quickly on full auto, I can see how it would be a waste.

Raubvogel · « **Reply #6 on:** April 01, 2003, 07:23:19 PM »

The M16A1 was a piece of crap. On full auto, you aint hitting **** after about 2-3 rounds. The M16A2 is an awesome weapon. Just a few months ago I fired 6 full 30 round magazines on burst as fast as I could load and pull the trigger without 1 stoppage. It's accurate as **** too, you can easily pick off man-sized targets out beyond 300 meters.

funkedup · « **Reply #7 on:** April 01, 2003, 07:33:33 PM »

you are should shoot AKM superiorest russian gun

Jack55 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 01, 2003, 07:35:46 PM »

I guess, no news is good news.

rc51 · « **Reply #9 on:** April 01, 2003, 08:36:11 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Raubvogel
T It's accurate as **** too, you can easily pick off man-sized targets out beyond 300 meters.

LOL you should be a sniper !!

BGBMAW · « **Reply #10 on:** April 01, 2003, 08:44:38 PM »

hitting soup cans with a 308 at 300yds is not that hard....

Hitting an egg or a quarter at 300yds...now thats tuff..thats sniper tactics..

ie( brain stem is about same with and shape as an egg) you hit this...its ded

rc51 · « **Reply #11 on:** April 01, 2003, 08:47:46 PM »

Really?
Well Im a competitive shooter and this is the best I can do.

rc51 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 01, 2003, 08:50:10 PM »

And that was only at 100 yds.
To qualify for Bravo-4 you have to be able to keep groups like this
at 500metters plus.
Least you did when i was in.

rc51 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 01, 2003, 08:51:06 PM »

Heres my groups at 200yds

Bodhi · « **Reply #14 on:** April 01, 2003, 08:53:51 PM »

The current M-4 is a full auto, burst, or semi auto weapon. While I refuse to waste the tax stamp money on a full auto M-16, I can hit a gnats bellybutton easily at 300 meters with my AR-15 with PVS-14 scope fitted... day or night.

Grunherz, I have an MP5K, and that I do pay the tax stamp on. Firing it on full auto is just a waste, thats why 3 rounds is quite simply the best way to go. By the way, what did ya think of it?