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« Reply #75 on: April 02, 2003, 12:29:01 PM »
I think that picture Hortlund posted will be one of the defining shots of this war. Excellent.

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« Reply #76 on: April 02, 2003, 12:34:59 PM »
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I also feel that no way should that girl have been anywhere near a combat zone tho...  One only has to look at the reaction of both the capture and the rescue to see why..  In both our troops and our people. -snip-  lazs



Look at the other side of that coin Lazs. Would there be as great a morale boost if she had been a he? I think not.

Point is there are positives and negatives to her service. Overall though I think our Country came out ahead.

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« Reply #77 on: April 02, 2003, 12:49:46 PM »
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Now I'm going to make an educated guess here: Batdog, Dingbat, AWmac, and Maverick- You guys live in mobile homes, (excuse me- "premanufactured homes" is the term you fellas like) dont you?



Actually, I live in a modest size single family home with my wife, on 1/3 of an acre.  Not doing to bad for the DC/Metro Area.  How's your cardboard box doing?  :D



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But Iraq IS the most civilized middle-eastern country.  Nobody is offering any evidence to the contrary.  Why is that such an inflammatory remark?  South Vietnam was a democracy and it was one of the most corrupt and infiltrated goverments in history.


Where is your evidence that they are civilized any more than say Jordan, or Iran, hell what about turkey?  People are people, you run into tulips and you run into nice people.  The people IMHO that are uncivilized it the IRAQI MILITARY REGIME.  You are completely missing the point , Military regime, Saddam Hussien.
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« Reply #78 on: April 02, 2003, 02:07:44 PM »
lasz2 has a point about the female pow. problem lies in fact that like it or not most guys are raised to protect the ladies. "when daddys gone you are the man of the house look after your mom for me" and such. its not any fault of the ladies but when the majority of the combat forces are men you cant ignore the psych angle. israelis had women in combat and they stopped doing it for most part not because women couldnt or wouldnt fight but because having shot up women at trauma facil was devastating morale of male component israeli armed forces from what ive heard. problem is emotional decision get people killed for no good reason in wartime and not many who could say honestly that they not get more emotional when pow is 19 year old girl probably getting raped as opposed to fellow ranger or pilot who is getting worked over but you know hes tough. maybe in 500 years like in scifi war stories where no cultural diff between men and women it work.

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« Reply #79 on: April 02, 2003, 02:10:03 PM »
I just wanted to add to my previous post a link on other civil societies. Ball's in your court davve

Turks


Jordan People

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/3584.htm
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« Reply #80 on: April 02, 2003, 02:17:46 PM »
maybe in 500 years like in sci fi movies when there is no sexual difference it work....

it is not simply cultural... it is hardwired... instinctual.   evolution MAY change it... then again ... it may not.

even MT seems to be acknowledging the differences... in any case... I am very glad that she was rescued and would very much like for it to not happen again.
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« Reply #81 on: April 02, 2003, 02:39:40 PM »
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Now I'm going to make an educated guess here: Batdog, Dingbat, AWmac, and Maverick- You guys live in mobile homes, (excuse me- "premanufactured homes" is the term you fellas like) dont you?


Not even close... 5 bedroom, 2 bath, inground pool and pond.
All with the VA Loan.

Bet your box leaks when it rains. :D

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« Reply #82 on: April 02, 2003, 03:20:47 PM »
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Good news.

I just hope that American troops don’t shoot her going through the checkpoint




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« Reply #83 on: April 02, 2003, 03:29:12 PM »
Davidpt40 <--- (the 40 must be his IQ, )

Making himself look like a complete tool, I would swear he was a 14 year old, but he claims he is older.

Why do you all bother with him, put him on ignore where he belongs.


OH and WTFG U.S. troops for getting her back.

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« Reply #84 on: April 02, 2003, 09:40:26 PM »
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Maverick: If you need something earlier to see the trend you can look up the stories told by the Gulf War POW's who were beaten and threatened with death by having pistols put to their head and the trigger pulled byt these same "civilized" iraqi's. :rolleyes:

 That's called psychological pressure - making prisoners believe they are threatened when in reality they are not.
 In order to work properly threats must be combined with severe sleep deprivation, sensory deprivation, acute physical discomphort (being tied in ackward positions for hours, confined to narrow spaces, etc.), humiliation and other kinds of treatment that destroy person's mind.

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Miko,
 You obviously need to research the geneva convention. I'm sure your training in the ussr didn't cover it. I'm sure because of the absolutely stupid post you made.
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« Reply #85 on: April 02, 2003, 09:44:54 PM »
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Wasn't going to reply till I saw this.  I definately DO NOT hate the U.S.  In fact, about the only thing I hate are the folks trying to bring us down.
 


I won't other with the rest of your post. I do want to direct you to reread the post you are referring to above. Read it for COMPREHENSION this time.  Here is a clue for free dipstick. I was referring to blur. Now do you get it???? I doubt it. Your post confirmed the lack of ability to get a clue. :rolleyes:

If you want to know about my background read my profile. I posted it as I have nothing to worry about and no need to be an anonomous clueless twit like you. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #86 on: April 02, 2003, 10:15:19 PM »
Maverick, I read your profile and it says you're a one eyed gay midget into vertical skull sex. Why, what a coincidence! I am too! Oh...wait a sec...sorry, my bad...that was my profile I was reading. Never mind.

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« Reply #87 on: April 03, 2003, 01:32:52 AM »
Lucky you don't work for the media Davidpt40, or you would had just got fired...

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« Reply #88 on: May 23, 2003, 09:45:22 AM »
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Good news.

I just hope that American troops don’t shoot her going through the checkpoint


Being right all the time can get boring. ;)

"But as the ambulance, with Private Lynch inside, approached a checkpoint American troops opened fire, forcing it to flee back to the hospital. The Americans had almost killed their prize catch. "

-BBC

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/correspondent/3028585.stm

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« Reply #89 on: May 23, 2003, 12:08:58 PM »
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Hmmm ... no recollection? Perhaps she took the "fifth" on that? *lol*

I remember that the news said she fought until she ran out of ammo ... with a broken arm and leg, and dislocated ankle after a crash? I guess it is possible.

The whole thing sure reminds me of "Wag the Dog". No surprise though.


Well you are a ******* ******* too, so I dont think anyone is that surprised.

Hmmm, let's see...she was taken prisoner uninjured, and was retrieved with spinal injuries, multiple major bone breaks, and contusions...from a hospital...where she may have been under painkillers or sedation...in an operation involving lots of noise, lights, flash-bangs going off...yeah, her inability to provide total recall of the events is clearly an indication of her involvement in the conspiracy. Hell, she probably volunteered to be captured so she could be rescued. Part of the US Army's elite 151st Special Prisoner Volunteer Batallion.

Seriously, people who get into CAR ACCIDENTS can exhibit memory failures; they are unable to remember anything between "the car started to skid" and "waking up in the hospital."

As for that BBC article it is full of sh*t. The reporter is spinning  lots of media guesses to make them up to be official US Army statements.

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They were said to have come under fire from inside and outside the building, but they made it to Lynch and whisked her away by helicopter.


Nope, the Central Command spokesman as specifically saying, on April 2, that there was no firefight inside the hosptal, but that there were scattered firefights outside the hospital.

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"It was like a Hollywood film. They cried 'go, go, go', with guns and blanks without bullets, blanks and the sound of explosions. They made a show for the American attack on the hospital - action movies like Sylvester Stallone or Jackie Chan."

Anyone believe that the Spec ops guys went into Iraq, into a hostile environment loaded with blanks?

The Iraqi doctors (and the reporter) probably have a little bit to learn about what exactly composes a breeching round in a shotgun and a flash bang grenade.

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Reports claimed that she had stab and bullet wounds and that she had been slapped about on her hospital bed and interrogated.

This is the official US Army version of her injuries:
Lynch was treated at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany for a head wound, a spinal injury, fractures to her right arm, both legs, and her right foot and ankle. Gunshots may have caused open fractures on her upper right arm and lower left leg.
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